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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. (Unk) De QUINCEY
  2. Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret Birth: 1155 Death: 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta

Marriage:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Malcolm Of Mar
  2. John Of Mar

Bibliography
  1. Barlow, Lundie W, The Ancestry of Saher De Quincy, Earl of Winchester, in New England Historical Genealogical Register 112 (Jan 1958) p61-65. Available at http://americanancestors.org/databases/new-england-historical-and-genealogical-register/image Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Barlow Quincy p6[0-9]].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 08, Lindley-Moate. London: St Catherine Press, 1932. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VIII [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-2, Tracton-Zz. London: St Catherine Press, 1959. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/2 [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
  5. Holloway, Naomi D, The Genealogy of Mary Wentworth, Who Became the Wife of William Brewster, Revised Edition, October 1969. LDS Film#1738313 item#5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Holloway WENTWORTH p[0-9a]*].
  6. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
  7. Richardson, Douglas, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2005. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson MCA p[0-9]*].
  8. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  9. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
  10. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  11. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP IV p[0-9]*].
  12. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP V p[0-9]*].
  13. Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
  14. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
father:
[Ref: Barlow Quincy p63, CP VIII p399, CP XII/2 p748, Keats-Rohan DD p652, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p436, SP V p571, Watney WALLOP #821]
Ness [Ref: Weis AR7 #53]
Sources for death Information
date:
before 30 Jun 1203 [Ref: Barlow Quincy p64, CP VIII p399(k), CP XII/2 p748(c)]
before Jun 1203 [Ref: SP V p572]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert De QUINCEY
date:
before 1155 [Ref: SP V p572]
first marriage of Orabella [Ref: SP IV p6]
first marriage of Robert [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p652, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p436]
first marriage of each [Ref: ES III.4 #708],
divorced:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p436, SP V p572],
names:
[Ref: Barlow Quincy p63, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p645, Roberts RD600 p534],
child:
[Ref: CP VIII p399(k), CP XII/2 p748, Holloway WENTWORTH p22, Keats-Rohan DD p652 (with corr on proposon web site), Richardson RoyalAnc v4p436, SP V p572, Watney WALLOP #821, Weis AR7 #53]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Alice (#20153) wife of Roger Huntingfield [Ref: Richardson MCA p446, Roberts RD600 p534]
Robert de QUINCY (#153321) who m. Hawise [Ref: CP XII/2 p748(g)]
Sources with Information about marriage to Adam MACDUFF
date:
abt 1172-80 [Ref: SP V p572]
second marriage of Orabella [Ref: SP IV p6]
Sources with Information about marriage to Gilchrest Earl Of Mar
date:
before 1199 [Ref: SP V p572]
second marriage of Orabella [Ref: CP XII/2 p748(c), ES III.4 #708, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p436]
third marriage of Orabella [Ref: SP IV p6],
names:
[Ref: CP VIII p399, SP V p571],
child:
[Ref: SP V p572]
Research Notes:
heir of her father [Ref: CP XII/2 p748, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p436]

inherited estates in Leuchars, Tranent, Lathrisk, Beith, and Nesgask, to the exclusion of her brothers; presumably her brothers were issue of a 2nd marriage and her father held these lands in right of his 1st wife [Ref: CP XII/2 p748(c)]



Pedigree of Orabella
          /-----William Lord Of Leuchars
 /-----Ness Of Leuchars
Orabella



Descendants of Orabella
1. Orabella m1. Robert De QUINCEY m2. Adam MACDUFF m3. Gilchrest Earl Of Mar
m. Robert De QUINCEY father: Saher De QUINCEY, Lord Of Buckby In Northampto mother: Maud De ST LIZ
m. Adam MACDUFF father: Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
m. Gilchrest Earl Of Mar

2nd generation

2. (Unk) De QUINCEY m. (Unk) De SAINT ANDREW
m. (Unk) De SAINT ANDREW
3. Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret m. Margaret BEAUMONT
m. Margaret BEAUMONT father: Sir Robert De BEAUMONT, Earl Of Leicester mother: Petronilla De GRANTMESNIL

3rd generation

6. Sir Saher De SAINT ANDREW m. Maud De DIVE
m. Maud De DIVE father: William De DIVE
8. Robert De QUINCEY m. Hawise Of Chester, Countess Of Lincoln
m. Hawise Of Chester, Countess Of Lincoln father: Hugh Of Kevelioc, Earl Of Chester mother: Bertrade De MONTFORT
9. Roger De QUINCY, Earl Of Winchester m1. Helen Of Galloway m2. Maud De BOHUN m3. Eleanor De FERRERS
m. Helen Of Galloway father: Alan Lord Of Galloway, Constable Of Scotland mother: (Unk Dau) De LACY
m. Maud De BOHUN father: Humphrey V De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex mother: Maud D'EU
m. Eleanor De FERRERS father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Sibyl MARSHALL
10. Robert De QUINCY, Lord Of Ware m. Elen
m. Elen father: Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales mother: Joan
13. Hawise De QUINCEY m. Sir Hugh De VERE, Earl Of Oxford
m. Sir Hugh De VERE, Earl Of Oxford father: Robert De VERE, Earl Of Oxford, MC Surety mother: Isabel De BOLEBEC
14. Orabella De QUINCY m. Sir Richard De HARCOURT
m. Sir Richard De HARCOURT father: William De HARCOURT, Gov Of Tamworth Castle mother: Alice NOEL
15. Lorette De QUINCEY m. Sir William De VALOIGNES, Chamberlain Of Scotland
m. Sir William De VALOIGNES, Chamberlain Of Scotland father: Philip De VALOINES

4th generation

18. Margaret De QUINCY, Heiress Of Lincoln m1. John De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln, MC Surety m2. Sir Walter MARSHALL, Earl Of Pembroke m3. Richard De WILTSHIRE
m. John De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln, MC Surety father: Roger De LACY, Baron Of Pontefract mother: Maud De CLERE
m. Sir Walter MARSHALL, Earl Of Pembroke father: Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke mother: Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
m. Richard De WILTSHIRE
19. Margaret De QUINCEY m. William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
m. William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Agnes Of Chester, Lady Of Chartley
20. Elizabeth De QUINCY m. Alexander COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
m. Alexander COMYN, Earl Of Buchan father: William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan mother: Margaret Countess Of Buchan
21. Elena De QUINCY m. Sir Alan La ZOUCHE, Constable Of The Tower Of Lon
m. Sir Alan La ZOUCHE, Constable Of The Tower Of Lon father: Roger La ZOUCHE mother: Margaret BISET
25. Hawise De QUINCY m. Sir Baldwin WAKE, Baron Of Bourne
m. Sir Baldwin WAKE, Baron Of Bourne father: Hugh WAKE, Baron Of Bourne mother: Joan De STUTEVILLE
26. Isabel De VERE m1. Sir John De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton m2. Sir Oliver De DINHAM, Lord Dinham
m. Sir John De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton father: Sir Robert De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton mother: Mary De VERNON
m. Sir Oliver De DINHAM, Lord Dinham father: Sir Geoffrey De DINAN
27. Laura De VERE m. Reynold De ARGENTINE
m. Reynold De ARGENTINE father: Giles De ARGENTINE mother: Margery AIGUILLON
29. Sir Robert De VERE, Earl Of Oxford m. Alice De SANFORD
m. Alice De SANFORD father: Gilbert De SANFORD mother: Lorette La ZOUCHE
31. Margaret De HARCOURT m. Sir John De La HAYE
m. Sir John De La HAYE father: Sir Ralph De La HAYE mother: Eustache TRIAN
32. Sir William De HARCOURT m1. Alice La ZOUCHE m2. Hillaria De HASTINGS
m. Alice La ZOUCHE father: Roger La ZOUCHE mother: Margaret BISET
m. Hillaria De HASTINGS father: Sir Henry De HASTINGS mother: Ada Of Huntingdon
33. Christiana De VALOIGNES m. Peter De MAULE
m. Peter De MAULE father: Richard De MAULE
34. Isabel De VALOIGNES m. David COMYN
m. David COMYN
35. Lorette De VALOIGNES m. Sir Henry De BALLIOL
m. Sir Henry De BALLIOL father: Ingram De BALIOL mother: (Unk Dau) De BERKELEY

5th generation

36. Maud De LACY m. Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Gloucester And Hertfor
m. Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Gloucester And Hertfor father: Sir Gilbert De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford And Glouceste mother: Isabel MARSHALL
40. Edmund De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln, Constable Of C m. Alice De SALUZZO
m. Alice De SALUZZO father: Manfred III Margrave Of Saluzzo mother: Beatrice Of Savoy
41. Robert De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby m1. Mary De Lusignan m2. Alianore De BOHUN
m. Mary De Lusignan father: Hugh XI Le Brun De Lusignan mother: Yolande De DREUX
m. Alianore De BOHUN father: Humphrey VI De BOHUN mother: Eleanor De BRAIOSE
42. Sir William De FERRERS m1. Anna DURWARD m2. Eleanor LOVAINE
m. Anna DURWARD father: Sir Alan DURWARD mother: Marjorie
m. Eleanor LOVAINE father: Matthew De LOUVAINE, Baron Of Little Easton mother: Helisant
43. Joan De FERRERS m. Sir Thomas De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley
m. Sir Thomas De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley father: Maurice De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley mother: Isabel FITZ ROY
47. Sir Alexander COMYN m. Joanna LATIMER
m. Joanna LATIMER father: William Le LATIMER, Lord Latimer mother: Alice LEDET
49. Marjory COMYN m. Sir Patrick DUNBAR, Earl Of March Or Dunbar
m. Sir Patrick DUNBAR, Earl Of March Or Dunbar father: Patrick DUNBAR, Earl Of Dunbar mother: Cecilia
50. Agnes COMYN m. Malise Earl Of Strathern
m. Malise Earl Of Strathern father: Malise Earl Of Strathern mother: Maud Of Caithness
51. Elizabeth COMYN m. Gilbert De UMFREVILLE, Earl Of Angus
m. Gilbert De UMFREVILLE, Earl Of Angus father: Sir Gilbert De UMFREVILLE, Baron Of Prudhoe And Rede mother: Maud Of Angus
52. Elena COMYN m. Sir William Of Brechin, Lord Of Brechin
m. Sir William Of Brechin, Lord Of Brechin father: Henry Of Brechin, Lord Of Brechin mother: Julian De CORNHILL
53. Margaret COMYN m. Nicholas De SOULIS
m. Nicholas De SOULIS father: Sir William De SOULIS mother: Ermengarde DURWARD
54. Sir Roger La ZOUCHE, Lord Zouche Of Ashby And Broc m. Ela LONGSPEE
m. Ela LONGSPEE father: Stephen LONGESPEE, Justiciar Of Ireland mother: Emmeline De RIDELISFORD
57. Sir Oliver La ZOUCHE m1. (Unk) m2. Joan De COBHAM
m. (Unk)
m. Joan De COBHAM father: John De COBHAM
58. Margery De La ZOUCHE m. Robert FITZ ROGER, Lord Clavering
m. Robert FITZ ROGER, Lord Clavering father: Roger FITZ JOHN, Baron Of Whalton mother: Isabel
61. Sir Hugh WAKE m. Joan De BOLANY
m. Joan De BOLANY father: Baldwin De BOLANY
62. Sir John WAKE, Lord Wake m. Joan FIENNES
m. Joan FIENNES father: Sir William FIENNES mother: Blanche De BRIENNE, Lady Of Loupeland
63. Sir Hugh De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton m. Eleanor Le DESPENSER
m. Eleanor Le DESPENSER father: Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England mother: Aline BASSET
65. Sir Josce De DINHAM, Lord Dinham m. Margaret De HYDON
m. Margaret De HYDON father: Sir Richard De HYDON mother: Isabel De FISSACRE
66. Sir John De ARGENTINE m1. Joan De BRIEN m2. Agnes De BEREFORD
m. Joan De BRIEN father: Sir Roger De BRIEN
m. Agnes De BEREFORD father: William De BEREFORD mother: Margaret De PLESCY
67. Robert De VERE, Earl Of Oxford m. Margaret De MORTIMER
m. Margaret De MORTIMER father: Sir Roger MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore mother: Maud De BRAOISE
69. Sir Alfonso De VERE m. Joan FOLIOT
m. Joan FOLIOT father: Sir Jordan FOLIOT, Lord Foliot mother: Margery De NEWMARCHE
73. Joan De VERE m. Sir William De WARENNE
m. Sir William De WARENNE father: John De WARENNE, Earl Of Surrey mother: Alfais De LUSIGNAN
77. Orabella De HARCOURT m. Henry De PEMBRUGGE
m. Henry De PEMBRUGGE father: Henry De PEMBRUGGE mother: Elizabeth De GAMAGES
80. Sir Richard De HARCOURT m1. Margaret BEKE m2. Joan
m. Margaret BEKE father: John BEKE, Lord Beke mother: Sarah De FURNIVAL
m. Joan
81. William De MAULE m. Ethana De VALLIBUS
m. Ethana De VALLIBUS father: John De VALLIBUS
84. William COMYN m. Euphemia
m. Euphemia father: Roger FITZ JOHN, Baron Of Whalton mother: Isabel
86. Alexander De BALLIOL, Lord Balliol m. Isabel Of Chilham
m. Isabel Of Chilham father: Sir Richard De Douvres, Baron Of Chilham mother: Maud Of Angus