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Marriage: Children:
  1. Joan SOMERY Death: Abt 1276
  2. Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley Birth: 1 Death: Before 1220
  3. William Perceval De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley Birth: 2 Death: Before 20 Jun 1222
  4. Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley Birth: Abt 1208 Death: 26 Aug 1273 in Dudley, Co Warwick
  5. Isabel SOMERY

Marriage:
Bibliography
  1. Bevan, Rosie, Corrections to K. S. B. Keats-Rohan's Domesday Series, Volume II: Domesday Descendants. Version 7, 25 Sep 2005. Available at http://www.fmg.ac/Projects/Domesday/ Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Bevan DD++ p[0-9]*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 02 Bass-Canning. London: St Catherine Press, 1912. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 2 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo02coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP II [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-1, Skelmersdale-Towton. London: St Catherine Press, 1953. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/1 [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Crouch, David, William Marshal - Knighthood and Chivalry, 1147-1219, New York: Routledge, 2016. NYPL JFE 16-3861. Portions (with different pagination) available at http://books.google.com/?id=IOihAwAAQBAJ. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Crouch Marshal p[0-9]*].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Margaret le Gras (not Marshall) wife of Ralph de Somery and Maurice de Gant. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/27/2012, Subject: C.P. Correction: Margaret le Gras (not Marshall) wife of Ralph de Somery and Maurice de Gant. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ZPIUJnysSYo/m/RXmUaVC8uZoJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/27/2012-155538].
  6. Richardson, Douglas, Roger de Somery. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 4/16/2012, Subject: C.P. Correction_ Margaret le Gras (not Marshal) wife of Ralph de Somery and Maurice de Gant. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/qV0sHsJb9Cw/m/iYggJXtMrlAJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 4/16/2012-152418].
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Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
William Le GRAS & dau John Fitz Gilbert [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p39, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p40, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]
William Le GRAS & sister of William Marshal [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/27/2012-155538],
father:
[Ref: Crouch Marshal p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p449, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p65]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
John Fitz Gilbert (#10440) & Sibyl de Salisbury (#10441) [Ref: CP XII/1 p110, Holloway WENTWORTH p3, Weis AR7 #81],
father:
John Fitz Gilbert (#10440) [Ref: CP II p127 (with corr in XIV p87)],
brother:
William MARSHALL, Earl of Pembroke [Ref: Weis AR7 #55, Weis AR7 #81]
William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke [Ref: CP II p127, CP XII/1 p110, Sanders Baronies p113(9)]
Sources for death Information
date:
living 1242-3 [Ref: CP XII/1 p111]
living 14 Jun 1247 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p65, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p672]
Sources with Inaccurate death Information
date:
1216-17 [Ref: Watney WALLOP #905]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley
date:
before 1194 [Ref: Crouch Marshal p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]
first marriage of Margaret [Ref: Bevan DD++ p472, CP II p126(d), Foss Judges p286, Lyte Dunster v1p63, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p65, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p40],
names:
[Ref: CP XII/1 p110, Sanders Baronies p113(9)],
child:
[Ref: CP II p126, CP XII/1 p111, CP XII/1 p112, Douglas Richardson SGM 4/16/2012-152418, Holloway WENTWORTH p3, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p325, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p449, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671, Watney WALLOP #905, Weis AR7 #122A, Weis AR7 #55, Weis AR7 #81]
Sources with Information about marriage to Maurice De Ghent, Baron Of Beverstone
date:
before 1220-21 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p65, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]
second marriage of Margaret [Ref: CP II p126(d), CP XII/1 p111, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p40]
second marriage of both [Ref: Bevan DD++ p472, Foss Judges p286, Lyte Dunster v1p63]
Research Notes:
maritagium included land at Little Dalby, Leicestershire [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p671]

While Complete Peerage does claim in its Berkeley and Somery accounts that Margaret, wife of Ralph de Somery, was the sister of William Marshal (died 1219), Earl of Pembroke, I've always found that claim rather doubtful. Indeed the editor's comments in both the Berkeley and Somery accounts suggest that the identification of Margaret de Somery as the earl's sister is not at all certain. [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/27/2012-155538]



Pedigree of Margaret Le GROS
          /-----William Le GROS
 /-----William Le GROS
Margaret Le GROS
|                           /-----Robert Marshal
|                  /-----Gilbert GIFFARD, Marshal
|         /-----John Fitz GILBERT The Marshal
|        |        |         /-----Geoffrey De VENOIZ
|        |         \-----(Unk dau) De VENOIZ
 \-----(Unk dau) Marshall
         |                           /-----Girold DAPIFER
         |                  /-----Edward De SARESBERIE, Baron Of Trowbridge
         |                 |         \-----Wulfwynn Of Cresswell
         |         /-----Walter De SALISBURY, Baron Of Chitterne
          \-----Sibyl De SALISBURY
                  |                  /-----Hugh
                  |         /-----Patric De CHAWORTH, Baron Of Kempsford
                   \-----Sibyl De CHAWORTH
                           |                  /-----(Unk) De HESDIN
                           |         /-----Ernulph De HESDIN, Baron Of Keevil
                            \-----Matilda De HESDIN
                                     \-----Emmeline



Descendants of Margaret Le GROS
1. Margaret Le GROS m1. Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m2. Maurice De Ghent, Baron Of Beverstone
m. Sir Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley father: John De SOMERY mother: Hawise De PAYNELL
m. Maurice De Ghent, Baron Of Beverstone father: Robert De GHENT, Baron Of Beverstone mother: Avice De GAUNT

2nd generation

2. Joan SOMERY m. Thomas De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley
m. Thomas De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley father: Maurice FITZROBERT FITZHARDING, Baron Of Berkele mother: Alice De BERKELEY
3. Ralph De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Ida LONGSPEE
m. Ida LONGSPEE father: William LONGESPEE, Earl of Salisbury mother: Ela Of Salisbury
4. William Perceval De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Rohese De VERDUN
m. Rohese De VERDUN father: Nicholas De VERDUN mother: Clemence
5. Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m1. Nichole D'AUBIGNY m2. Amabil De CHAUCOMBE
m. Nichole D'AUBIGNY father: William D'AUBIGNY, Earl Of Arundel mother: Mabel Of Chester
m. Amabil De CHAUCOMBE father: Sir Robert De CHAUCOMBE mother: Julian De CORNHILL
6. Isabel SOMERY m. Sir Alan De ENGLEFIELD
m. Sir Alan De ENGLEFIELD

3rd generation

7. Maurice De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley m. Isabel FITZ ROY
m. Isabel FITZ ROY father: Richard Fitz Roy, Baron Of Chilham mother: Rohese De DOVER
14. Margaret De BERKELEY m1. Sir John FITZ MATTHEW, Baron Of Erlestoke m2. Sir Anset BASSETT
m. Sir John FITZ MATTHEW, Baron Of Erlestoke father: Matthew Fitz HERBERT mother: Joan PATRIC
m. Sir Anset BASSETT
17. Joan De SOMERY m. John IV Le STRANGE
m. John IV Le STRANGE father: John III Le STRANGE mother: Lucy TREGOZE
18. Mabel De SOMERY m. Walter De SULLY
m. Walter De SULLY father: Raymond De SULLY
19. Margaret De SOMERY m1. Ralph BASSET m2. Sir Ralph De CROMWELL
m. Ralph BASSET father: Ralph BASSET
m. Sir Ralph De CROMWELL father: Ralph De CROMWELL
21. Maud SOMERY m1. Sir Henry De ERDINGTON m2. Sir William De BIFELD
m. Sir Henry De ERDINGTON father: Giles De ERDINGTON
m. Sir William De BIFELD
22. Sir John Percival De SOMERY m.
23. Sir Roger De SOMERY, Baron Of Dudley m. Agnes De LUCY
m. Agnes De LUCY father: Robert De LUCY mother: Emma De SACKVILLE

4th generation

26. Sir Thomas De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley m. Joan De FERRERS
m. Joan De FERRERS father: William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby mother: Margaret De QUINCEY
33. Margaret Le STRANGE m. Rhys Ap GRIFFITH Ap Ednyfed Vychan
m. Rhys Ap GRIFFITH Ap Ednyfed Vychan
34. John V LESTRANGE, Lord Strange m1. Alienore De MONTZ m2. Maud De WALTON
m. Alienore De MONTZ father: Eble De MONTZ mother: Joan De BOHUN
m. Maud De WALTON father: John De WALTON mother: Isabel
35. Sir Raymond De SULLY m.
37. Ralph BASSET, Lord Basset Of Drayton m. Hawise Le DESPENSER
m. Hawise Le DESPENSER father: Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England mother: Aline BASSET
39. Ralph De CROMWELL m. Joan De SOMERVILLE
m. Joan De SOMERVILLE father: Robert De SOMERVILLE mother: Isabel De MERLAY
41. John De CROMWELL, Lord Cromwell m. Idoine De VIPONT
m. Idoine De VIPONT father: Robert De VESPONT mother: Isabel FITZ JOHN
43. Sir Henry De ERDINGTON, Lord Erdington m. Joan WOLVEY
m. Joan WOLVEY father: Sir Thomas De WOLVEY mother: Alice De CLINTON
47. Margaret De SOMERY, Baroness Dudley m. Sir John I De SUTTON, Lord Of Dudley Castle
m. Sir John I De SUTTON, Lord Of Dudley Castle father: Richard De SUTTON mother: Isabel PATRICK
48. Joan De SOMERY m. Sir Thomas De BOTETOURTE
m. Sir Thomas De BOTETOURTE father: John De BOTETOURTE, Lord Botetourte mother: Maud FITZ THOMAS
49. Miles De SOMERY m.

5th generation

50. Sir Maurice De BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley m1. Eve ZOUCHE m2. Isabella De CLARE
m. Eve ZOUCHE father: Eudo La ZOUCHE mother: Milicent De CANTELOU
m. Isabella De CLARE father: Sir Gilbert DeCLARE, Earl Of Gloucester And Hertford mother: Alice De LUSIGNAN
51. Sir Thomas De BERKELEY, Baron Of Berkeley m1. m2. Margery Le BRAY m3. Isabel HAMELYN
m. Margery Le BRAY father: Sir Robert Le BRAY
m. Isabel HAMELYN father: Sir John HAMELYN
54. Margaret BERKELEY m1. Thomas FITZ MORICE m2. Reynold RUSSEL
m. Thomas FITZ MORICE father: Morice FITZ JOHN mother: Maud De BARRY
m. Reynold RUSSEL
57. John VI LESTRANGE, Lord Strange m. Iseult
m. Iseult
59. Hawise LESTRANGE m1. Stephen SOMERY m2. Sir Robert De FELTON, Lord Felton
m. Stephen SOMERY
m. Sir Robert De FELTON, Lord Felton father: Sir William De FELTON mother: Eustancia
60. Hamon LESTRANGE m. Margaret VERNON
m. Margaret VERNON father: Ralph VERNON
62. Elizabeth LESTRANGE m. Gruffyd O'R Rhuddallt AP MADOG
m. Gruffyd O'R Rhuddallt AP MADOG father: Madog AP GRUFFYD MAELOR
64. Margaret BASSET m1. Edmund De STAFFORD, Lord Stafford m2. Thomas De PIPE
m. Edmund De STAFFORD, Lord Stafford father: Nicholas De STAFFORD mother: (Unk) De LANGLEY
m. Thomas De PIPE
65. Ralph BASSET, Lord Basset Of Drayton m. Joan GREY
m. Joan GREY father: John De GREY, Lord Grey Of Wilton mother: Maud De VERDUN
70. Sir Ralph De CROMWELL m. Joan De La MARE
m. Joan De La MARE father: Geoffrey De La MARE mother: (Unk wife1)
73. Sir Giles De ERDINGTON, Lord Erdington m. Elizabeth De TOLTHORPE
m. Elizabeth De TOLTHORPE father: William De TOLTHORPE mother: Alice De NORMANVILLE
74. (Unk) De ERDINGTON m. John De GRAFTON
m. John De GRAFTON
75. Sir John II De SUTTON m. Isabel De CHERLETON
m. Isabel De CHERLETON father: John CHERLETON, Lord Cherleton mother: Hawise FERCH OWAIN De La POLE
76. Katherine De SUTTON m. Sir Roger HILLARY
m. Sir Roger HILLARY
78. John De BOTETOURTE, Lord Botetourte Of Weoble m1. Elizabeth La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER m2. Joyce La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER
m. Elizabeth La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER father: Sir William La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER, Lord Zouche mother: Alice De TOENI
m. Joyce La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER father: Sir William La ZOUCHE De MORTIMER, Lord Zouche mother: Alice De TOENI
79. Amabel De SOMERY m. Sir Arhulf De MOUNTENY
m. Sir Arhulf De MOUNTENY father: Robert De MOUNTENY mother: (Unk) De MANDEVILLE
82. Maud De SOMERY m1. Geoffrey De BACHEWORTH m2. Trakel FITZ HOEL
m. Geoffrey De BACHEWORTH
m. Trakel FITZ HOEL
83. Ela De SOMERY m1. Robert De SHELTON m2. Hubert De MUNCHESNEY
m. Robert De SHELTON
m. Hubert De MUNCHESNEY father: Roger De MUNCHENSY mother: Matilda
84. Muriel De SOMERY m. Thomas PICOT
m. Thomas PICOT