Family:
Marriage:
Marriage:
Marriage:
Children:
- Robert FITZ ROGER, Baron Of Whalton Birth: Before 1177
Death: Abt 22 Nov 1214
- (Unk Son) FITZ ROGER Birth: 2
- Alice Fitz Roger Death: After 1190
Bibliography
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 10, Oakham-Richmond. London: St Catherine Press, 1945. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP X [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Phillips, Chris, Proposed Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++(proposed) .*].
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Clutterbuck, Robert, History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, London: Nichols, Son, and Bentley, 1815-27, v1-3. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188626. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v[1-3]p[0-9]*].
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Stephen, Leslie, and Lee, Sidney, eds., Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co, 1885-1901. Drew 920.042 D555d. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: DNB [A-Za-z].*].
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Ravilious, John, AT for Patrick, Earl of Dunbar (d. 1308). Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/2/2004. Subject: Royal Ancestry of the Warkworths. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/2hL92zGLod0/m/2n0L4rt0cZ0J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/2/2004-141655].
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Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
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Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
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Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
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Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis MC #[0-9][0-9]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- abt 1125 (age 60 in 1185) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218]
- before 1141 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/2/2004-141655, Weis AR7 #246D,
Weis MC #156],
- parents:
- [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v3p104, Keats-Rohan DD p762, Richardson
RoyalAnc v2p218, Watney WALLOP #1000, Watney WALLOP #376, Weis AR7 #246D, Weis
MC #156],
- father:
- [Ref: CP V p115(f), Keats-Rohan DD p761, Keats-Rohan DD p948,
Richardson RoyalAnc v3p463, Watney WALLOP #588],
- brother:
- Aubrey III earl of Oxford [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p761]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- brother:
- William de MANDEVILLE Earl of Essex [Ref: DNB v31p388]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- after 1184 [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/2/2004-141655]
- living 1185 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218, Weis AR7 #246D, Weis MC
#156]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert Of Essex, Baron Of Rayleigh
- date:
- first marraige of Alice [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/2/2004-141655,
Keats-Rohan DD p948, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218]
- first marriage of Alice [Ref: CP V p115(f), Keats-Rohan DD p761, Weis
AR7 #246D],
- names:
- [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v3p104, Keats-Rohan DD p762]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- date:
- second marriage of Robert [Ref: CP X p206(c)],
- names:
- Robert fitz Swein (#11110) & Alice de VERE [Ref: CP X p206(c)]
Sources with Information about marriage to William De SACKVILLE
- date:
- second marriage of Alice [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218],
- divorced:
- 1141 or 1143 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218]
Sources with Information about marriage to Roger FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Warkworth
- date:
- in or after ?1145 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218]
- second marraige of Alice [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/2/2004-141655,
Keats-Rohan DD p948]
- second marriage of Alice [Ref: CP V p115(f), Keats-Rohan DD p761, Weis
AR7 #246D],
- names:
- [Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v3p104, Watney WALLOP #1000, Watney WALLOP
#588],
- child:
- [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/2/2004-141655, Keats-Rohan DD p250,
Keats-Rohan DD p948, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p218, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p463,
Watney WALLOP #376, Weis AR7 #246D, Weis MC #156]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- child:
- Roger de LACY (#10306) [Ref: DNB v31p388]
Research Notes:
cannot have been the wife of Robert fitz Swein of Essex as is usually
assumed. Her husband was certainly a lord of the Essex fee and was
probably a son of the first Robert; this second Robert died without issue
and was succeeded by his brother Henry some time between abt 1140 and
1154 [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p761]
Dugdale states that Alice was half-sister of Earl William, but was mistaken
[Ref: CP V p115(f)]
Views have differed as to whether Alice's husband, Robert de Essex, was the
same man as the Robert de Essex who married Gunnor Bigod and was father of
Henry de Essex. K. S. B. Keats-Rohan [Domesday Descendants, pp. 450, 451]
states that Gunnor survived her husband Robert, and remarried to Haimo de St
Clair, by whom she had a son Hubert, his father's successor. She therefore
revives Round's suggestion, (referred to in CP X AppJ p115(i)), that the
Robert de Essex who married Aubrey's sister, Alice, must have been a son of
the Robert de Essex who married Gunnor, possibly by an earlier marriage.
[Ref: CP++(proposed) EarlyVeres 6/22/2003 (CP X AppJ p115(i))]
as a widow she joined her sister Rohese at Chicksand Priory, but moved to
Waldes Abbey at the behest of her nephew William Earl of Essex [Ref: CP X AppJ
p116]
witnessed charters for Colne issued by her mother and her sister Rohese [Ref:
CP X AppJ p116]
1185: living as a widow, age returned as 80 in Essex and 60 in Northants, held
Clavering, Essex, in dower from Robert de Essex, and lands from the Earl of
Essex, and had 2 sons who were knights and a daughter married to John, the
Constable of Chester [Ref: CP X AppJ p116(d), Keats-Rohan DD p761]
her marriage portion of Clavering, in the fee of Henry of Essex,
descended toher sons by her second husband [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p761]
Pedigree of Alice De VERE
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Alberic De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Beatrix
Alice De VERE
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Hrolfr (Rollo) Duke Of Normandy
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William Longspee Duke Of Normandy
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Poppa
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Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
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Espriota
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Godfrey Count Of Brionne
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Gunnora
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Gilbert Count Of Brionne
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Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
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Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
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Osbern De Bolbec, Seigneur Of Longueville
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Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Wevie
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Rohese GIFFARD
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Gerard De FLEITELL
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Ermengarde FLATEL
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Adeliza De CLARE
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Renaud
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Hugh Butler Of France
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Renaud Count Of Clermont
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Hugh Count Of Clermont
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Ermengardis
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Adeliza De CLERMONT
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Helpuin Count Of Arcis-Sur-Aube
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Hildouin I Seigneur De Rameru
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Hersinde Dame De Rameru
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Hildouin II De Rameru
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Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
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Anonima
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Margaret De Roucy
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Rogenvald
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Giselbert Duke Of Lorraine
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Gerberga Of Saxony
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Ebles I Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Lutaud Count Of Macon
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Aubri Count Of Macon
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Ermengarde Of Chalon
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(Unk Dau)
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Renaud Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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Ermentrude Of Roucy
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Alberade Of Lorraine
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Adele De Roucy
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Regnier II Count Of Hainaut
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Regnier III Count Of Hainaut
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Adelaide Of Burgundy
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Regnier IV Count Of Hainault
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Lambert Count Of Louvain
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Adele Of Louvain
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(Unk Dau) Of Betuwe
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Beatrix Of Hainault
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Hugh Magnus Duke Of The Franks, Count Of Paris
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Hugh Capet King Of France
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Hedwig Of Saxony
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Hedwig Of France
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William I Count Of Poitou, Duke Of Aquitaine
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Adelaide Of Poitou
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Gerloc Of Normandy
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