Person Info
- Name: Hawise MUSCEGROS
- Sex: F
- Birth: 21 Dec 1276 b
- Death: After 1348 d
- Burial: Church of English Bicknor, Gloucestershire u
Parents:
- Father:
- Sir Robert De MUSCEGROS
Birth: Abt 1252
Death: 27 Dec 1280
Family:
Marriage:
Marriage:
Children:
- John De FERRERS, Lord Ferrers Of Chartley Birth: 1
Death: Before 23 Jul 1324
- Sir Robert De FERRERS, Lord Ferrers Of Chartley Birth: 25 Mar 1309
Death: 28 Aug 1350
- Petronelle De FERRERS Death: After 20 Apr 1331
- Alianore FERRERS
Marriage:
Children:
- Lucy De BURES
- Catherine De BURES Birth: Before 1315
Death: After Oct 1355
Bibliography
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
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Phillips, Chris, Parents of Agnes de Ferrers. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 12/2/2001. Subject: CP Error: Ferrers (was: Royal Genealogy Question Agnes de Ferres/Charlemagne). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Jf722f71Lj0/m/MzlNwmutNBcJ. Author address: cgp100 at cgp100 dot dabsol dot co dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 12/2/2001-091015].
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Richardson, Douglas, Mother of Hawise Muscegros. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/13/1999. Subject: Lygon to Henry I. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/rTrSYGkMS-w/m/fP4P1XjSDhwJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/13/1999].
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Richardson, Douglas, Hawise de Muscegros, wife of John de Ferrers. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 8/2/2016. Subject: C.P. Addition: Hawise de Muscegros (living 1348), wife of William de Mortimer, John de Ferrers, Knt., and John de Bures, Knt.. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/ZZeVcO2Gx0I/m/SSMEWt2BBgAJ. Author address: celticprince at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 8/2/2016-210232].
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Watson, John, Richard de Muscegros. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 1/13/2015. Subject: Parentage of Robert Muscegros. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/cSvfBR8PX1o/m/UEhkjM2Ig_wJ. Author address: watsonjohnm at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Watson SGM 1/13/2015-104930].
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Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2004. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson PA p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
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Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
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Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- date:
- [Ref: CP V p309, CP V p335f, Richardson PA p307, Richardson RoyalAnc
v2p568, Watney WALLOP #383, Watney WALLOP #719, Weis AR7 #189, Weis AR7 #57],
- parents:
- Robert de MUSCEGROS & unk first wife [Ref: CP++ Ferrers 12/31/2006
(CP V p308), Chris Phillips SGM 12/2/2001-091015, Douglas Richardson SGM
11/13/1999, John Watson SGM 1/13/2015-104930, Richardson PA p307, Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p201],
- father:
- [Ref: CP V p308, CP V p335f, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p568, Richardson
RoyalAnc v4p413, Watney WALLOP #383, Watney WALLOP #719, Weis AR7 #189],
- grandmother:
- Cecily de Muscegros [Ref: CP V p308]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- mother:
- Agnes de FERRERS (#13601) [Ref: CP V p308, CP V p335f, Watney WALLOP
#719, Weis AR7 #189],
- note:
- mother NOT Agnes de FERRERS [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/13/1999]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- after Jun 1340 [Ref: Weis AR7 #189]
- alluded to as living in an inq.p.m taken 17 Nov 1347, but such
statements are often incorrect [Ref: CP V p310(a)]
- between 24 Jun 1340 and 21 Dec 1350 [Ref: CP V p309]
- between Easter 1348 and 22 Dec 1350 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
8/2/2016-210232]
- between Jun 1340 and Dec 1350 [Ref: Weis AR7 #57]
- living 23 Jun 1340, but d before husband [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc
v2p569]
- living 23 Jun 1340, d before 1353 [Ref: Richardson PA p308]
- living 24 Jun 1340 [Ref: CP V p335f, Watney WALLOP #383, Watney WALLOP
#719]
Sources for burial Information
- place:
- [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p569]
- possibly in church of English Bicknor, Gloucester [Ref: Douglas
Richardson SGM 8/2/2016-210232]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir William MORTIMER
- date:
- first marriage of Hawise [Ref: CP IX p281(c), CP V p308, CP V p335f,
Richardson PA p307, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p568, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p202]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John De FERRERS, Lord Ferrers Of Chartley
- date:
- abt 1300 [Ref: CP IX p281(c) (with corr in XIV p488)]
- after 2 Feb 1297/8 [Ref: Richardson PA p307]
- before 1300 [Ref: Weis AR7 #57]
- between 2 Feb 1297/8 and 13 Sep 1300 [Ref: CP V p308, Richardson
RoyalAnc v2p568]
- between 2 Feb 1297/98 and 13 Sep 1300 [Ref: Weis AR7 #189]
- second marriage of Hawise [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p202],
- names:
- [Ref: Watney WALLOP #719],
- child:
- [Ref: CP V p309(d), CP V p310, CP V p335f, Richardson PA p307,
Richardson RoyalAnc v2p568, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p24, Watney WALLOP #383,
Weis AR7 #57, Weis AR7 #61]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir John De BURES
- date:
- before 1315 [Ref: Richardson PA p307, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p569]
- third marriage of Hawise [Ref: CP V p309, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p202,
Weis AR7 #189],
- child:
- [Ref: CP V p309(d), CP V p335f, Richardson PA p308, Richardson RoyalAnc
v2p569, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p413, Weis AR7 #189]
Research Notes:
Lady of Charlton, Norton, Bicknor, etc [Ref: CP V p335f]
heiress of her father [Ref: CP V p308, Douglas Richardson SGM 11/13/1999, John
Watson SGM 1/13/2015-104930, Richardson PA p307, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p568,
Richardson RoyalAnc v4p413]
when Hawise married Agnes' nephew, John de Ferrers, they had to obtain a
dispensation to marry. In this instance, the dispensation makes no mention
that Hawise and John were related by kindred, so we must assume that they were
not. Rather, the dispensation was obtained for other reasons. [Ref: Douglas
Richardson SGM 11/13/1999]
1300: when the couple sought a dispensation to marry, it was because they
were related in a tenuous way - Hawise had previously been espoused to
William de Mortimer, without having consummated the marriage, and William
had been related to John in the third degree [Ref: CP++ Ferrers 12/31/2006 (CP
V p308)]
Pedigree of Hawise MUSCEGROS
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Richard De MUSCEGROS
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Sir Robert De MUSCEGROS
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Sir John De MUSCEGROS
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Robert MALET
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Robert MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet
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Emily Of Montfort
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William MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet
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Gilbert MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet
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Ralph PICOT
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Eugenia PICOT
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Sir William MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet, MC Surety
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Ralph PICOT
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Alice PICOT
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Hawise MALET
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Sir Robert De MUSCEGROS
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Sir William AVENAL
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Cecily Of Avenal
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