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Marriage:
Marriage:
Bibliography
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Verity, Brad, 040922-010244, Talbot Tangle - Joan [Talbot], Lady Berkeley. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 9/22/2004. Subject: Talbot Tangle - Joan [Talbot], Lady Berkeley. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/cWP4tRIHqyY/m/PBDf62hV19AJ. Author address: batruth at hotmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 9/22/2004-010244].
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Burke, Sir John Bernard, Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage Baronetage and Knightage. 99th edition. London: Burke's Peerage, 1949. Available at http://archive.org/details/burkesgenealogic1949unse. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Burke Peerage [cx0-9]*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 02 Bass-Canning. London: St Catherine Press, 1912. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 2 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo02coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP II [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Faris, David, Plantagenet ancestry of seventeenth century colonists: the descent from the later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of emigrants from England and Wales to the North American colonies before 1701, second edition. Boston: New England Historical Genealogical Society, 1999. NYPL APR (New England) 01-1513. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Faris PA2 p[0-9ivxc]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Baltimore, MD: Genelogical Publishing Co, 2004. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson PA p[0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p[0-9]*].
- parents:
- [Ref: CP II p132, Faris PA2 p23, Richardson PA p100],
- father:
- [Ref: Burke Peerage p181, Burke Peerage p1830, Richardson RoyalAnc
v1p337, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p122, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p125]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
- mother:
- Margaret BEAUCHAMP (#23411) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p337,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p122, Richardson RoyalAnc v5p125],
- note:
- doubt about identity of her mother [Ref: Brad Verity SGM
9/22/2004-010244]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir James BERKELEY, Lord Berkeley
- date:
- 1457 [Ref: Burke Peerage p181, Burke Peerage p1830]
- first marriage of Joan [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v5p125]
- settlement 25 Jul 1457 [Ref: CP II p132, Faris PA2 p23, Richardson PA
p100, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p337]
Sources with Information about marriage to Sir Edmund HUNGERFORD
- date:
- 1487 [Ref: Burke Peerage p181, Burke Peerage p1830]
- before 26 May 1474 [Ref: CP II p133, Faris PA2 p23, Richardson PA p100]
- between 20 Sep 1467 and 26 May 1474 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p337]
- second marriage of Joan [Ref: Brad Verity SGM 9/22/2004-010244,
Richardson RoyalAnc v5p125]
Research Notes:
The Talbot Tangle:
CP Volume 2, pp. 142-143, says: "He [James, 1st Lord Berkeley] m., 4thly,
(settl. 25 July 1457) Joan, da. of John (Talbot), 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, by
his 1st wife, Maud, da. of Thomas (Nevill), Lord Furnival, which Joan was
consequently step-da. of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury abovenamed ... His
widow m., before 26 May 1474, Edmund Hungerford." No source is cited for any
of the above, but probably the main source was Smyth's 'Lives of the
Berkeleys'.
In _Gloucestershire's Forgotten Battle: Nibley Green 1470_ by Peter Fleming
& Michael Wood (Stroud, Gloucestershire: Tempus Publishing, 2003), p. 47: "The
death of these two John Talbots, father and son [1st Earl of Shrewsbury and
1st Lord Lisle], changed everything. The second earl of Shrewsbury, another
John, was the son of the previous earl by his first marriage. Margaret
[Beauchamp, second wife of 1st Earl of Shrewsbury] had tried and failed to
disinherit the children of her predecessor, and there was now deep enmity
between Earl John and his step-mother. He did not share Margaret's obsession
with the Berkeley inheritance. After his succession, hostilities between
Berkeley and Talbot all but ceased and in July 1457 the two families made a
genuine peace. The pact was sealed by a remarkable marriage. At the age of
sixty-three James, Lord Berkeley, took to wife Joan, sister of the second earl
of Shrewsbury ... In the words of Smyth, by this marriage Berkeley 'not only
gave strength to his own affaires, but hee weakened the power of the adverse
party'. [footnote: 'Lives', p. 82] Not everyone in the Berkeley camp was happy
with the Talbot marriage. [footnote: The following is based on 'Lives', pp.
75-6, 81-2] Smyth believed that Sir William, son and heir of Lord James,
regarded his new step-mother as a manipulator, taking advantage of her
husband's weaknesses 'by beating upon ye weake pulse of her husbands old
age'." All well and good background to the Berkeley/Talbot union, but the
chronology for the bride Joan Talbot seems very off.
Maud, heiress of Furnival, the first wife of the 1st Earl of Shrewsbury,
was dead "about 1423" [CP, Volume 11, p. 703]. If Joan was Maud's daughter
then the latest she could have been born was 1423. The 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury
was born about 1413. This means Joan was at least age 34 at her marriage to
Lord Berkeley, quite an advanced age to wed for the first time. Indeed, the
two younger daughters of the 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (by his second wife,
Margaret Beauchamp), were married off years before Joan was. Eleanor Talbot,
born about 1436, was married in 1449-50, when she was about 13 or 14, to Sir
Thomas Butler, aged about 28, the only son and heir of Ralph Butler, Lord
Sudeley. Elizabeth Talbot, born about 1443, was married "by 27 Nov. 1448" [CP,
Volume 9, p. 609, citing 'B.M.Add.Chr. 15779' as its source] to John Mowbray,
aged about 4, the only son and heir of the Duke of Norfolk.
That Mowbray was given a child bride makes sense, given he was but a child
himself. But why was Butler, a knight pushing 30, given a bride who was a
young teen and would probably have to put off childbearing for a couple years,
instead of her elder sister, who was in her 20s and much closer to his age?
Why did the 1st Earl of Shrewsbury not arrange a marriage for his eldest
daughter Joan while he was alive, but in the meantime arranged the marriages
for his much younger daughters? Joan had to wait until 4 years after her
father's death for her brother to arrange a marriage for her. One could argue
that it was her wicked stepmother Margaret, trying to disinherit her
stepchildren, who prevented a marriage for Joan. But then why was the marriage
of the 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury to Elizabeth Butler, sister of the Earl of
Ormond, allowed to take place, before March 1445? This was the immediate heir
of the 1st Earl of Shrewsbury's first marriage.
Collins's Peerage - in its article on the Earls of Berkeley - says Joan
Talbot was the daughter of the 1st Earl of Shrewsbury by his second wife
Margaret. This makes more sense chronologically. It is even possible that she
was the daughter of the 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury and Elizabeth Butler, whose
eldest son was born in 1448.
Is there any contemporary evidence that Joan Talbot, Lady Berkeley, was the
daughter of Maud Neville of Furnival?
(followup posted that evening) Many thanks to Tim Powys-Lybbe, who informed
me that Smyth does not say who Joan Talbot's mother was - only that she was
the sister of the 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury [Ref: Brad Verity SGM
9/22/2004-010244]
Pedigree of Joan TALBOT
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Gwenthlian MECHYLL
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Walter De BEAUCHAMP
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Joan MORTIMER
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Sarah De BEAUCHAMP
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William IV MAUDIT, Baron Of Hanslope
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Isabel MAUDUIT
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Alice De NEWBOURGE
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William PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
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Matilda De PANTULF
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Hawise FITZ WARIN
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Anne BOTILER
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Gruffudd Ap Madog, Prince Of Powys Fadog
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Iseult
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Angharad Ferch Gruffudd
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Henry Of Aldithley
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Emma Of Aldithley
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Bertrad MAINWARING
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Richard COMYN
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Margaret Of Huntingdon
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Elizabeth COMYN
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Hugh IX De Lusignan, Sire De Lusignan
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Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche
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Agatha De Preuilly
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William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence
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Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
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Isabel Of Angouleme
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Alice De Courtenay
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Joan De VALENCE
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Sir William De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe
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Sir Warin De MUNCHENSY, Baron Of Swanscombe
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Aveline De CLARE
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Joan De MUNCHENSEY
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Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke
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Joan MARSHALL
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Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
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Richard TALBOT, Lord Talbot
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Theobald Le BOTELER
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Theobald Le BOTELER
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Joan Du MARAIS
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Theobald Le BOTELER
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Richard De BURGH, Lord of Connaught
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Margery De BURGH
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Egidia (Jill) De LACY
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Edmund Le BOTELER
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Geoffrey FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex
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Sir John FITZ GEOFFREY
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Aveline De CLARE
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Joan FITZ JOHN
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Hugh BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety
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Isabel BIGOD
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Maud MARSHALL
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James BUTLER, Earl Of Ormond
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Sir Maurice FITZ GERALD, Baron Offaly
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Thomas FITZ MAURICE FITZ GERALD
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Juliane
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John FITZ THOMAS FITZ GERALD, Earl Of Kildare
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Richard De ST MICHAEL, Baron of Reban
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Rohesia De ST MICHAEL
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Joan FITZ JOHN
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Alexander ROCHE, Baron Of Fermoy
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Blanche ROCHE
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Petronilla BUTLER
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Humphrey V De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex
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Humphrey VI De BOHUN
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Maud D'EU
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Humphrey VII De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex
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William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle
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Eleanor De BRAIOSE
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Eve MARSHALL
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Humphrey VIII De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex
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William De FIENNES
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Sir Ingleman FIENNES, K.B., Lord Of Wendover
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Agnes De DAMMARTIN
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Maud De FIENNES
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Isabel
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Eleanor De BOHUN
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John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
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Henry III King Of England
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Isabel Of Angouleme
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Edward I King Of England
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Raymond Berengar IV Count Of Provence And Forcalquier
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Eleanor Of Provence
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Beatrice Of Savoy
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Elizabeth PLANTAGENET
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Alfonso IX King Of Leon
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Fernando III The Saint King Of Castile And Leon
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Berengaria Of Castile
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Eleanor Of Castile
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Simon De DAMMARTIN, Count Of Aumale
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Joan De DAMMARTIN
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Marie Countess Of Ponthieu
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Sir John TALBOT, K.G., Earl Of Shrewsbury
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John II LESTRANGE
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John III Le STRANGE
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Amice
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Robert Le STRANGE
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Sir Robert TREGOZE, Baron Of Ewyas Harold
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Lucy TREGOZE
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Juliana De CANTELOU
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Fulk Le STRANGE, Lord Strange
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William De BLANCMINSTER
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Eleanor De BLANCMINSTER
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Sir Fulk FITZ WARIN, Robin Hood
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Eve FITZ WARIN
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Maud VAVASOUR
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John Le STRANGE, Lord Strange
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Sir Ellis III GIFFARD, Baron Of Elston
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Sir Elis IV GIFFORD, Baron Of Elston
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John MAUTRAVERS
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Alice MAUTRAVERS
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Alice FITZ GEOFFREY
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Eleanor GIFFORD
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Walter CLIFFORD, Baron Of Clifford
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Maud De CLIFFORD
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Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
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Margaret Of Wales
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Joan
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Sir John Le STRANGE, Lord Strange
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Maurice Le BOTELER
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Ralph Le BOTELER
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William Le BOTELER
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William PANTULF, Baron Of Wem
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Matilda De PANTULF
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Hawise FITZ WARIN
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William Le BOTILLER, Lord Botiller
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Madog Ap Maredudd, Prince Of Powys Fadog
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Gruffudd Ap Madog, Prince Of Powys Fadog
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Iseult
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Angharad Ferch Gruffudd
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Emma Of Aldithley
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Bertrad MAINWARING
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Ankaret BUTLER
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Sir Hugh De HERDEBURGH
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Roger De HERDEBURGH
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William TURVILLE
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Isabel TURVILLE
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Ela HERDEBURGH
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William De ODINGSELLS
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William ODDINGSELLS, Lord Of Maxtock
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Joan
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Ida ODDINGSELLS
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Sir Walter FITZ ROBERT, Baron Of Little Dunmow
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Ela FITZ WALTER
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Ida LONGSPEE
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Ankaret Le STRANGE
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John FITZALAN, Baron Of Oswestry
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Sir John FITZALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Isabel D'AUBIGNY
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Sir John FITZALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Theobald Le BOTELER
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Maud De VERDUN
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Rohese De VERDUN
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Sir Richard FITZ ALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Ralph MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Sir Roger MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Gladys DHU
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Isabel MORTIMER
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William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle
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Maud De BRAOISE
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Eve MARSHALL
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Sir Edmund FITZ ALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Bonifacio Of Vasto
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Manfred III Margrave Of Saluzzo
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Maria Of Torres
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Thomas I Margrave Of Saluzzo
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Amadeus IV Count Of Savoy, Marquess Of Turin
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Beatrice Of Savoy
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Anna Of Burgundy
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Alasia Of Saluzzo
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Guglielmo II Marquis Of Ceva
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George Of Ceva, Marquis Of Ceva
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(Unk) De Vasto
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Luisa Of Ceva
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Mary FITZ ALAN
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Hameline PLANTAGENET, Earl Of Surrey
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William De WARENNE, Earl Of Surrey
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Isabel De WARENNE, Countess Of Surrey
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John De WARENNE, Earl Of Surrey
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Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke
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Maud MARSHALL
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Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
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Sir William De WARENNE
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Hugh IX De Lusignan, Sire De Lusignan
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Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche
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Agatha De Preuilly
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Alfais De LUSIGNAN
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Aymer Tailefer, Count Of Angouleme
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Isabel Of Angouleme
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Alice De Courtenay
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Alice De WARENNE
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Robert De VERE, Earl Of Oxford, MC Surety
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Sir Hugh De VERE, Earl Of Oxford
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Isabel De BOLEBEC
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Sir Robert De VERE, Earl Of Oxford
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Saire De QUINCEY, Earl Of Winchester, MC Suret
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Hawise De QUINCEY
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Margaret BEAUMONT
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Joan De VERE
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Sir John SANFORD
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Gilbert De SANFORD
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Alice BASSET
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Alice De SANFORD
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Roger La ZOUCHE
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Lorette La ZOUCHE
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Margaret BISET
Joan TALBOT
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Geoffrey FITZ ROBERT De NEVILL
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Sir Robert De NEVILLE
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Joan
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Robert De NEVILLE
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Randolph De NEVILLE, Lord Neville Of Raby
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Ranulf FITZROBERT, Lord Of Middleham
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Sir Ralph FITZ RANULF, Lord of Middleham
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Mary BIGOD
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Mary FITZRANULPH
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Sir William De PERCY, Baron Of Topcliffe
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Anastasia De PERCY
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Joan De BRIWERE
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Ralph De NEVILLE, Lord Neville Of Raby
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John FITZ ROBERT, MC Surety
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Roger FITZ JOHN, Baron Of Whalton
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Ada De BALIOL
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Robert FITZ ROGER, Lord Clavering
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Sir Parick DUNBAR, Earl Of Dunbar
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Isabel
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Euphemia
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Euphemia De CLAVERING
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Roger La ZOUCHE
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Sir Alan La ZOUCHE, Constable Of The Tower Of Lon
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Margaret BISET
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Margery De La ZOUCHE
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Roger De QUINCY, Earl Of Winchester
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Elena De QUINCY
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Helen Of Galloway
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John De NEVILL, K.G. Lord Neville Of Raby
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Adam Of Aldithley
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Henry Of Aldithley
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Emma FITZRALF
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James De AUDLEY
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Sir Ralph MAINWARING, Seneschal Of Chester
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Bertrad MAINWARING
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Amicia Of Chester
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Sir Hugh De AUDLEY, Lord Audley
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William LONGESPEE, Earl of Salisbury
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Sir William De LONGESPEE
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Ela Of Salisbury
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Ela LONGESPEE
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Richard De Camville
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Idoine De Camville
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Eustacia BASSET
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Alice AUDLEY
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Ralph MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Sir Roger MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Gladys DHU
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Sir Edmund De MORTIMER, Lord Mortimer
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William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle
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Maud De BRAOISE
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Eve MARSHALL
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Isolda MORTIMER
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Sir Thomas NEVILLE, Lord Furnivall
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Sir Henry De PERCY
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Sir William De PERCY, Baron Of Topcliffe
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Isabel De BRUS
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Sir Henry De PERCY, Baron Of Topcliffe
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Ingram De BALIOL
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Ellen BALIOL
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(Unk Dau) De BERKELEY
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Sir Henry PERCY, Lord Percy
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William De WARENNE, Earl Of Surrey
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John De WARENNE, Earl Of Surrey
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Maud MARSHALL
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Eleanor De WARENNE
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Hugh X De Lusignan, Count Of La Marche
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Alfais De LUSIGNAN
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Isabel Of Angouleme
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Henry De PERCY, Lord Percy
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Sir John FITZALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Sir John FITZALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Maud De VERDUN
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Sir Richard FITZ ALAN, Earl Of Arundel
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Sir Roger MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Isabel MORTIMER
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Maud De BRAOISE
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Eleanor FITZ ALAN
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Manfred III Margrave Of Saluzzo
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Thomas I Margrave Of Saluzzo
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Beatrice Of Savoy
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Alasia Of Saluzzo
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George Of Ceva, Marquis Of Ceva
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Luisa Of Ceva
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Menzia De ESTE
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Maud PERCY
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Roger CLIFFORD
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Roger CLIFFORD
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Sibilla De EWYAS
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Roger De CLIFFORD
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Maud
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Robert De CLIFFORD, Lord Clifford
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John De VIPONT, Baron Of Appleby
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Robert De VESPONT
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Sibilla De FERRERS
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Isabel De VESPONT
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Sir John FITZ GEOFFREY
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Isabel FITZ JOHN
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Isabel BIGOD
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Idonia De CLIFFORD
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Sir Gilbert De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford And Glouceste
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Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Gloucester And Hertfor
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Isabel MARSHALL
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Thomas DeCLARE, Lord Of Thomond
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John De LACY, Earl Of Lincoln, MC Surety
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Maud De LACY
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Margaret De QUINCY, Heiress Of Lincoln
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Maud De CLARE
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Sir Maurice FITZ GERALD, Baron Offaly
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Maurice FITZ MAURICE FITZ GERALD, Lord Of Offaly
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Juliane
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Julian FITZ MAURICE
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Gerald De PRENDERGAST
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Matilda De PRENDERGAST
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Matilda De BURG
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Maude De NEVILLE, Baroness Furnivall
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Gerard De FURNIVAL
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Sir Thomas De FURNIVAL
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Maud De LUVETOT
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Sir Thomas De FURNIVAL
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William De FERRERS, Earl Of Derby
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Bertha De FERRERS
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Agnes Of Chester, Lady Of Chartley
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Sir Thomas FURNIVAL, Lord Furnival
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Thomas De FURNIVAL, Lord Furnival
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Thomas Le DESPENSER
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Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER
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Recuara
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Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England
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Joan De DESPENSER
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Sir Alan BASSET
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Sir Philip BASSET, Justiciar Of England
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Aline De GAI
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Aline BASSET
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Matthew De LOUVAINE, Baron Of Little Easton
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Hawise De LOUVAINE
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Muriel (Amy)
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William FURNIVALL, Lord Furnivall
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Theobald Le BOTELER
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John De VERDUN
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Rohese De VERDUN
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Sir Theobald De VERDUN, Lord Verdun
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Gilbert De LACY
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Margaret De LACY, Lady Of Dulek
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Isabel BIGOD
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Sir Theobald De VERDUN, Lord Verdun
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Humphrey V De BOHUN, Earl Of Hereford And Essex
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Humphrey VI De BOHUN
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Maud D'EU
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Margery De BOHUN
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William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle
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Eleanor De BRAIOSE
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Eve MARSHALL
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Joan VERDON
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Ralph MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Sir Roger MORTIMER, Baron Of Wigmore
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Gladys DHU
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Sir Edmund De MORTIMER, Lord Mortimer
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William De BRAIOSE, Baron Of Brecknock Castle
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Maud De BRAOISE
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Eve MARSHALL
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Maud De MORTIMER
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Sir Ingleman FIENNES, K.B., Lord Of Wendover
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Sir William FIENNES
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Isabel Of Conde
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Margaret FIENNES
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Jean De BRIENNE, Grand Butler Of France
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Blanche De BRIENNE, Lady Of Loupeland
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Jeanne Dame De Chateau Du Loir
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Joan FURNIVALL
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Thomasine
Descendants of Joan TALBOT