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Marriage: Children:
  1. Joan MORAY Death: Before Aug 1409

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Richardson, Douglas, First wife of Murdoch, Duke of Albany. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 3/1/2018. Subject: First wife of Murdoch, Duke of Albany. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/_UTxa31LocI/m/3-jm6a10BAAJ. Author address: celticprince at gmail dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 3/1/2018-131023].
  4. Ravilious, John, Helen of Strathearn, wife of Sir David Graham. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 1/1/2006. Subject: Helen of Strathearn, daughter of Joanna de Menteith (revisited). Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/EdhQRQODrgE/m/XqhW5ehZSr8J. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721].
  5. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
  6. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP II p[0-9]*].
  7. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP III p[0-9]*].
  8. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP VI p[0-9]*].
  9. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP VIII p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
second son [Ref: SP II p128],
father:
[Ref: SP II p128]
Sources for death Information
date:
1361 [Ref: SP VIII p257]
prob in 1360 or 1361 [Ref: SP II p130],
place:
[Ref: SP VIII p257]
Sources with Information about marriage to Joan MORAY
date:
first marriage of Joan [Ref: CP IV p433],
names:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p604, SP II p130, SP VI p133],
child:
[Ref: CP XI p208 (with corr in XIV p557), John Ravilious SGM 1/1/2006-150721]
Research Notes:
Lord of Bothwell ("Panetarius Scotiae") [Ref: CP IV p433]

d.s.p; although Joan de Menteith was no doubt conjunct flar of his lands, it is not clear how she was able to carry to her second husband the barony of Bothwell, with the family possessions in Moray and elsewhere, except on the supposition that Archibald the Grim seized the estates when he married the widow [Ref: SP II p130]

it is most unlikely that there was no male heir of the last Lord of Bothwell. Craufurd in his Peerage says the male line was continued in Sir John de Moravia de Drumsgarard, a younger son of Sir William de Moravia de Bothwell and Drumsargard, Ponetarius Scotiae; but Sir William of Bothwell had no children, his grand-nephew becoming his heir. [Ref: SP II p131]



Pedigree of Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell
                                                                /-----William FRESKIN
                                                       /-----William De MORAVIA
                                              /-----Sir Walter De MORAVIA
                                     /-----Sir William De MORAVIA
                            /-----Sir Walter De MORAVIA
                           |        |                           /-----Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Justiciar Of Scot
                           |        |                  /-----Duncan MACDUFF
                           |        |                 |         \-----Ela
                           |        |         /-----Malcolm MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
                           |        |        |        |         /-----Walter CORBET
                           |        |        |         \-----Alice CORBET
                           |         \-----(Unk) Of Fife
                           |                 |                  /-----Iorworth Drwyndwn Prince Of Gwynedd
                           |                 |         /-----Llewellyn Fawr The Great AP IORWORTH, Prince Of North Wales
                           |                 |        |         \-----Margred Ferch Madog
                           |                  \-----(Unk Dau)
                           |                          |         /-----John Lackland PLANTAGENET, King Of England
                           |                           \-----Joan
                           |                                    \-----Agatha De FERRERS
                   /-----Sir Andrew De MORAVIA
                  |        |                                    /-----David OLIFARD
                  |        |                           /-----Walter OLIFARD
                  |        |                  /-----Walter OLIFARD, Justiciar Of Lothian
                  |        |                 |        |         /-----Ferteth Earl Of Strathern
                  |        |                 |         \-----Christian Of Strathern
                  |        |                 |                  \-----Ethen
                  |        |         /-----David OLIFARD, Lord Of Bothwell
                  |        |        |         \-----Isabel
                  |         \-----(Unk) OLIFARD
                  |                 |                           /-----Orm De ABERNETHY
                  |                 |                  /-----Sir Laurence De ABERNETHY
                  |                 |         /-----Patrick De ABERNETHY
                  |                 |        |        |         /-----Uchtred Of Galloway
                  |                 |        |         \-----Devorguile Of Galloway
                  |                 |        |                  \-----Gunnild Of Dunbar
                  |                  \-----Devergulla De ABERNETHY
          /-----Sir Andrew De MORAVIA
         |        |                                             /-----(Unk) De COMYN
         |        |                                    /-----Richard COMYN
         |        |                           /-----William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
         |        |                          |        |         /-----Uchtred Of Tynedale
         |        |                          |         \-----Hextilde of Tynedale
         |        |                          |                  \-----Bethoc Of Scotland
         |        |                  /-----Richard COMYN
         |        |                 |        |                  /-----Eustace Fitz John De BURGO, Constable Of Chester
         |        |                 |        |         /-----William De VESCY, Baron Of Alnwick
         |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Beatrice De VESCY
         |        |                 |         \-----(Unk)
         |        |                 |                 |         /-----Robert De STUTEVILLE, Baron Of Cottingham
         |        |                 |                  \-----Burga De STUTEVILLE
         |        |                 |                           \-----Helwise
         |        |         /-----Sir John The Red COMYN
         |         \-----(Unk Dau) COMYN
         |                  \-----Eve
 /-----Sir Andrew MORAY
Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell
|                                                               /-----Adam De BRUS
|                                                      /-----Robert De BRUS, Baron Of Skelton
|                                                     |         \-----Emma
|                                             /-----Robert De BRUS, Lord Of Annandale
|                                            |        |         /-----Fulk PAYNEL
|                                            |         \-----Agnes PAYNEL
|                                            |                  \-----Beatrix
|                                    /-----William De BRUS, Lord Of Annandale
|                                   |        |                  /-----Stephen Of Aumale, Lord Of Holderness
|                                   |        |         /-----Ingelran Of Aumale
|                                   |        |        |         \-----Hawise De MORTIMER
|                                   |         \-----Euphemia
|                           /-----Robert De BRUS, Lord Of Annandale
|                          |        |                           /-----Fleald Fitz Alan
|                          |        |                  /-----Alan FITZ FLEALD
|                          |        |         /-----Walter FITZALAN, High Steward Of Scotland
|                          |        |        |        |         /-----Ernulph De HESDIN, Baron Of Keevil
|                          |        |        |         \-----Avelina De HESDIN
|                          |        |        |                  \-----Emmeline
|                          |         \-----Christina
|                          |                 |         /-----Thomas Of London
|                          |                  \-----Sechym De MOILE
|                  /-----Sir Robert De BRUS, Baron Of Writtle
|                 |        |                                    /-----Mael Coluim Ceann Moir (Malcolm III) Canmore Mac DONNCHAD, King Of Scots
|                 |        |                           /-----David I The Saint King Of Scots
|                 |        |                          |         \-----Saint Margaret Of Scotland
|                 |        |                  /-----Henry Of Huntingdon, Earl Of Huntingdon
|                 |        |                 |        |         /-----Waltheof II Earl Of Huntingdon
|                 |        |                 |         \-----Maud Of Huntingdon
|                 |        |                 |                  \-----Judith Of Lens
|                 |        |         /-----David Earl Of Huntingdon
|                 |        |        |        |                  /-----William De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
|                 |        |        |        |         /-----William II De Warrene, Earl Of Surrey
|                 |        |        |        |        |         \-----Gundred
|                 |        |        |         \-----Ada De WARENNE
|                 |        |        |                 |         /-----Hugh Magnus Duke Of France
|                 |        |        |                  \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|                 |        |        |                           \-----Adelaide De Vermandois, Countess Of Vermandois
|                 |         \-----Isabella Of Huntingdon
|                 |                 |                           /-----Ranulph III De MESCHINES, Earl Of Chester
|                 |                 |                  /-----Ranulf De GERNON, Earl Of Chester, Vicomte D'Avranches
|                 |                 |                 |         \-----Lucia Of East Angies
|                 |                 |         /-----Hugh Of Kevelioc, Earl Of Chester
|                 |                 |        |        |         /-----Robert The Consul De CAEN, Earl Of Gloucester
|                 |                 |        |         \-----Maud De CAEN
|                 |                 |        |                  \-----Maud FITZ HAMOND
|                 |                  \-----Maud Of Chester
|                 |                          |                  /-----Amauri IV De MONTFORT, Count Of Evereux
|                 |                          |         /-----Simon De MONTFORT, Count Of Evreux
|                 |                          |        |         \-----Agnes De Garlande
|                 |                           \-----Bertrade De MONTFORT
|                 |                                    \-----Maud
|         /-----Sir Robert De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, Lord Of Annand
|        |        |                                             /-----Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
|        |        |                                    /-----Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
|        |        |                                   |         \-----Adeliza De CLERMONT
|        |        |                           /-----Roger De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford
|        |        |                          |        |         /-----Ranulph III De MESCHINES, Earl Of Chester
|        |        |                          |         \-----Adeliza Le MESCHIN
|        |        |                          |                  \-----Lucia Of East Angies
|        |        |                  /-----Richard De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford, MC Surety
|        |        |                 |        |                  /-----Hasculf De St JAMES, Baron Of Field Dalling
|        |        |                 |        |         /-----James De St HILARY, Baron Of Field Dalling
|        |        |                 |        |        |         \-----Matilda
|        |        |                 |         \-----Maud St. HILLARY
|        |        |                 |                  \-----Aveline
|        |        |         /-----Sir Gilbert De CLARE, Earl Of Hertford And Glouceste
|        |        |        |        |                           /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
|        |        |        |        |                  /-----Robert The Consul De CAEN, Earl Of Gloucester
|        |        |        |        |         /-----William Meullant FITZ ROBERT, Earl Of Gloucester
|        |        |        |        |        |        |         /-----Robert FITZ HAMOND, Lord Of Tewkesbury
|        |        |        |        |        |         \-----Maud FITZ HAMOND
|        |        |        |        |        |                  \-----Sybil De Montgomery
|        |        |        |         \-----Amice MEULANT, Countess Of Gloucester
|        |        |        |                 |                  /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|        |        |        |                 |         /-----Sir Robert II De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|        |        |        |                 |        |         \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|        |        |        |                  \-----Hawise DeBEAUMONT
|        |        |        |                          |         /-----Ralph De MONTFORT, Seigneur Of Montfort-Gael
|        |        |        |                           \-----Amicia De Gael
|        |         \-----Isabel De CLARE
|        |                 |                                    /-----Robert Marshal
|        |                 |                           /-----Gilbert GIFFARD, Marshal
|        |                 |                  /-----John Fitz GILBERT The Marshal
|        |                 |                 |        |         /-----Geoffrey De VENOIZ
|        |                 |                 |         \-----(Unk dau) De VENOIZ
|        |                 |         /-----Sir William MARSHALL, Protector, Earl Of Pembroke
|        |                 |        |        |                  /-----Edward De SARESBERIE, Baron Of Trowbridge
|        |                 |        |        |         /-----Walter De SALISBURY, Baron Of Chitterne
|        |                 |        |         \-----Sibyl De SALISBURY
|        |                 |        |                 |         /-----Patric De CHAWORTH, Baron Of Kempsford
|        |                 |        |                  \-----Sibyl De CHAWORTH
|        |                 |        |                           \-----Matilda De HESDIN
|        |                  \-----Isabel MARSHALL
|        |                          |                           /-----Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
|        |                          |                  /-----Gilbert De CLARE, Earl Of Pembroke
|        |                          |                 |         \-----Adeliza De CLERMONT
|        |                          |         /-----Richard "Strongbow" De CLARE, Earl Of Pembroke
|        |                          |        |        |         /-----Sir Robert De Beaumont, Earl Of Leicester
|        |                          |        |         \-----Elizabeth De BEAUMONT
|        |                          |        |                  \-----Isabel De Vermandois, Countess Of Leicester
|        |                           \-----Isabel De CLARE, Countess Of Pembroke
|        |                                   |                  /-----Donnchad Mac MURCHAD, King Of Dublin, Laigin, Lei
|        |                                   |         /-----Dairmait Mac MURCHAD, King Of Leinster
|        |                                   |        |         \-----Orlaith
|        |                                    \-----Aoife Macmurchada Of Leinster
|        |                                            |         /-----Muirchertach Ua TUATHAIL, King Of Ui Muiredaig
|        |                                             \-----Mor Ua TUATHAIL
|        |                                                      \-----Cacht Of Leix
 \-----Christian BRUCE
         |                                             /-----Fergus Lord Of Galloway
         |                                    /-----Gilbert Of Galloway
         |                                   |        |         /-----Henry I Beauclerc King Of England
         |                                   |         \-----Sibyl/Elizabeth
         |                                   |                  \-----Sibyl CORBET
         |                           /-----Duncan Earl Of Carrick
         |                          |        |                  /-----Gillemichel MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife
         |                          |        |         /-----Duncan MACDUFF, Earl Of Fife, Regent Of Scotlan
         |                          |         \-----Aufrica
         |                  /-----Nicol Of Carrick
         |                 |        |                           /-----Alan FITZ FLEALD
         |                 |        |                  /-----Walter FITZALAN, High Steward Of Scotland
         |                 |        |                 |         \-----Avelina De HESDIN
         |                 |        |         /-----Alan High Steward Of Scotland
         |                 |        |        |        |         /-----Thomas Of London
         |                 |        |        |         \-----Sechym De MOILE
         |                 |         \-----Avelina Of Scotland
         |                 |                 |         /-----Swan
         |                 |                  \-----Eva
         |         /-----Neil Earl Of Carrick, Regent Of Scotland
         |        |        |         /-----Niall Ruadh O'NEILL
         |        |         \-----(Unk) O'NEILL
          \-----Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick
                   \-----Isabella



Descendants of Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell
1. Sir Thomas MORAY, Lord Of Bothwell m. Joan MORAY
m. Joan MORAY father: Sir Maurice MORAY, Earl Of Strathern mother: Joan De MONTEITH

2nd generation

2. Joan MORAY m. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas
m. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas father: James DOUGLAS mother: Euphemia De MORHAM

3rd generation

3. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas m1. Christian De RAMSAY m2. Margaret STEWART
m. Christian De RAMSAY
m. Margaret STEWART father: Robert III King Of Scots mother: Annabella DRUMMOND
4. James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas m1. Beatrice STEWART m2. Beatrice SINCLAIR
m. Beatrice STEWART father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Margaret GRAHAM, Countess Of Menteith
m. Beatrice SINCLAIR father: Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney mother: Jean HALYBURTON
5. Mary DOUGLAS m1. David STEWART, Duke Of Rothesay m2. Walter HALYBURTON, Lord Of Dirletoun
m. David STEWART, Duke Of Rothesay father: Robert III King Of Scots mother: Annabella DRUMMOND
m. Walter HALYBURTON, Lord Of Dirletoun father: Walter HALYBURTON, Lord Of Dirletoun
6. Joan DOUGLAS m. Murdoch STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany
m. Murdoch STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Margaret GRAHAM, Countess Of Menteith

4th generation

7. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas m. Eupheme GRAHAM
m. Eupheme GRAHAM father: Sir Patrick GRAHAM, Earl Of Strathern mother: Eupheme STEWART, Countess Palatine Of Strathern
9. Elizabeth DOUGLAS m1. John STEWART, Earl Of Buchan m2. Sir Thomas STEWART m3. William SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney And Caithness
m. John STEWART, Earl Of Buchan father: Robert STEWART, Earl Of Fife, Duke Of Albany mother: Muriel KEITH
m. Sir Thomas STEWART father: Sir Alexander STEWART, Earl Of Mar
m. William SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney And Caithness father: Henry SINCLAIR, Earl Of Orkney mother: Jill DOUGLAS
10. Mary DOUGLAS m. Sir Simon GLENDINNING
m. Sir Simon GLENDINNING father: Sir Adam GLENDINNING mother: Margaret De WAUCHOPE
14. Archibald DOUGLAS, Earl Of Moray m. Elizabeth DUNBAR
m. Elizabeth DUNBAR father: James DUNBAR, Earl Of Moray mother: Margaret SETON
15. Hugh DOUGLAS, Earl Of Ormond m.
19. Beatrice DOUGLAS m1. Sir William HAY, Earl Of Erroll m2. Arthur FORBES
m. Sir William HAY, Earl Of Erroll father: Gilbert HAY mother: Alice HAY
m. Arthur FORBES father: Sir William FORBES mother: Agnes FRASER
20. Janet DOUGLAS m. Robert FLEMING, Lord Fleming
m. Robert FLEMING, Lord Fleming father: Sir Malcolm FLEMING mother: Elizabeth STEWART
21. Margaret DOUGLAS m. Sir Henry DOUGLAS
m. Sir Henry DOUGLAS father: Sir James DOUGLAS, Lord Dalkeith mother: Elizabeth STEWART
23. John HALYBURTON, Lord Dirletoun m. Janet SETON
m. Janet SETON father: Sir William SETON mother: Janet DUNBAR
27. Robert STEWART m.

5th generation

31. Margaret DOUGLAS, Countess Of Douglas m1. William DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas m2. James DOUGLAS, K.G., Earl Of Douglas m3. Sir John STEWART, Earl Of Atholl
m. William DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas father: James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas mother: Beatrice SINCLAIR
m. James DOUGLAS, K.G., Earl Of Douglas father: James DOUGLAS, Earl Of Douglas mother: Beatrice SINCLAIR
m. Sir John STEWART, Earl Of Atholl father: Sir James STEWART, Black Knight Of Lorn mother: Joan De BEAUFORT
32. Margaret STEWART m. George SETON, Lord Seton
m. George SETON, Lord Seton father: Sir William SETON mother: Janet DUNBAR
33. Elizabeth SINCLAIR m1. Sir Andrew LESLIE, Master Of Rothes m2. Sir John HOUSTOUN Of That Ilk
m. Sir Andrew LESLIE, Master Of Rothes father: George LESLIE, Earl Of Rothes mother: Christian HALYBURTON
m. Sir John HOUSTOUN Of That Ilk father: Sir Patrick HOUSTOUN Of That Ilk mother: Mary COLQUHOUN
34. William SINCLAIR, Lord Sinclair m. Christian LESLIE
m. Christian LESLIE father: George LESLIE, Earl Of Rothes mother: Christian HALYBURTON
35. Janet GLENDINNING m. Gilbert GRIERSON
m. Gilbert GRIERSON father: Malcolm MacGREGOR
45. William HAY, Earl Of Erroll m1. Isabel GORDON m2. Elizabeth LESLIE m3.
m. Isabel GORDON father: Sir George GORDON, Earl Of Huntley mother: Annabella STEWART
m. Elizabeth LESLIE father: George LESLIE, Earl Of Rothes mother: Christian HALYBURTON
47. Isabel HAY m. Laurence OLIPHANT, Lord Oliphant
m. Laurence OLIPHANT, Lord Oliphant father: Sir John OLIPHANT mother: Margaret OGILVY
48. Elizabeth HAY m1. Sir George GORDON, Earl Of Huntley m2. Andrew GREY, Lord Grey
m. Sir George GORDON, Earl Of Huntley father: Alexander SETON, Lord Gordon, Earl Of Huntley mother: Elizabeth CRICHTON
m. Andrew GREY, Lord Grey father: Patrick GRAY, Master Of Gray mother: Annabel FORBES
49. Margaret HAY m1. Alexander FRASER m2. Sir Gilbert KEITH m3. Sir Robert DOUGLAS
m. Alexander FRASER father: Sir Alexander FRASER mother: Marjorie MENZIES
m. Sir Gilbert KEITH
m. Sir Robert DOUGLAS father: Sir Robert DOUGLAS mother: Elizabeth BOSWELL
50. Maria HAY m. Alexander FORBES
m. Alexander FORBES father: Sir William FORBES mother: Agnes FRASER
51. Elizabeth FLEMING m. James LIVINGSTON, Lord Livingston
m. James LIVINGSTON, Lord Livingston father: Alexander LIVINGSTON
53. Malcolm FLEMING m. Eupheme LIVINGSTON
m. Eupheme LIVINGSTON father: James LIVINGSTON, Lord Livingston mother: Marian
59. George HALYBURTON, Lord Dirletoun m. Mariot
m. Mariot