Family:
Children:
- Maud De SAY
- Geoffrey De SAY
- Robert De SAY
Marriage:
Marriage:
Bibliography
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 09, Moels-Nugent. London: St Catherine Press, 1936. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IX [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
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Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Hawise de Clare, wife of Geoffrey de Say, Magna Carta Baron. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/31/2007. Subject: Complete Peerage Addition: Hawise de Clare, wife of Geoffrey de Say, Magna Carta Baron. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/oJ7DigECN4s/m/bdD2WpTv6noJ. Author address: royalancestry at msn dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/31/2007-200919].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
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Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].
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Sanders, I. J., English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Sanders Baronies p[0-9]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- parents:
- [Ref: CP V p116f, CP XI p467(o), Douglas Richardson SGM
10/31/2007-200919, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p562,
Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
Sources for death Information
- date:
- 1265/71 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc
v4p563(25)]
- abt 1265-71, before 1271 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/31/2007-200919]
- living 21 Feb 1215/6 [Ref: CP V p116f]
Sources with Information about marriage to unknown
- date:
- first marriage of Geoffrey [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
10/31/2007-200919, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)],
- names:
- Geoffrey de SAY & unk first wife [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
10/31/2007-200919, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)],
- child:
- [Ref: CP XI p467(o), Douglas Richardson SGM 10/31/2007-200919,
Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
Sources with Information about marriage to Margaret De BRIWERE
- date:
- before Mich 1225 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/31/2007-200919,
Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
- by Nov 1225 [Ref: CP++ Say 2/11/2003 (CP XI p470)]
- second marriage of Geoffrey [Ref: Sanders Baronies p98(1)]
- second marriage of Geoffrey and third of Margaret [Ref: CP XI p470]
- third marriage of Margaret [Ref: Sanders Baronies p123],
- divorced:
- before Hillary term 1230 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
10/31/2007-200919, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
- names:
- Geoffrey de SAY (#150354) & Margery de BRIWERRE, but divored [Ref: CP
XI p470, Sanders Baronies p98]
Sources with Information about marriage to Aline
- date:
- before 1239-40 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 10/31/2007-200919,
Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
- second marriage of Aline [Ref: CP IX p397]
Research Notes:
(second son named Geoffrey) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p562]
Knt, of Rickling, Essex, and Denham, Suffolk [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM
10/31/2007-200919, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p555, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
ancestor of the Says of Rickling, Essex [Ref: CP XI p467(o)]
described as son of Geoffrey de Say and Alice de Ver, made a grant to Walden
Abbey as "dominus de Rikelyng" between 1216 and 1226 [Ref: CP XI p467(o)]
heir in 1273 was John de Say, of Denham, Suffolk, and Rickling, Essex [Ref:
Douglas Richardson SGM 10/31/2007-200919, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p563(25)]
Pedigree of Geoffrey De SAY
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William De SAY
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Jordan De SAY
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Robert De Grentmesnil
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Hugh De Grantmesnil, Baron Of Leicester
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Girole De Echafour
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Hawise De Echafour
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Thursten De Bastenburgh
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Gisela De Bastenburgh
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Agnes De GRANDMESNIL
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Ivo Count Of Belemontensis
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Ivo I Count Of Beaumont
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Ivo II Count Of Beaumont
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Emma
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Adeliza Of Beaumont
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Judith
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William De SAY
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Rainfred De RUMILLY
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Robert De RUMILLY, Baron Of Skipton
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Lucy De RUMILLY
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Geoffrey De SAY
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Geoffrey De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
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William De MANDEVILLE, Baron Of Pleshy
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Athelaise
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Beatrice De MANDEVILLE
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Hubert De Ryes
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Eudo De RIE, Dapifer
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Margaret RIE
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Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
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Godfrey Count Of Brionne
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Gunnora
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Gilbert Count Of Brionne
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Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
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Rohais
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Osbern De Bolbec, Seigneur Of Longueville
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Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Wevie
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Rohese GIFFARD
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Gerard De FLEITELL
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Ermengarde FLATEL
Geoffrey De SAY
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Alberic De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Alberic II De VERE, Baron Of Hedingham
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Beatrix
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Aubrey III De VERE, Earl Of Oxford
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Richard I The Fearless Duke Of Normandy
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Godfrey Count Of Brionne
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Gunnora
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Gilbert Count Of Brionne
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Richard FITZ GILBERT De CLARE, Baron Of Clare
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Gilbert FITZ RICHARD, Baron Of Clare
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Osbern De Bolbec, Seigneur Of Longueville
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Walter Giffard Lord Of Longueville
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(Unk) Forquelar Of Cirques
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Wevie
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Rohese GIFFARD
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Gerard De FLEITELL
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Ermengarde FLATEL
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Adeliza De CLARE
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Renaud
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Hugh Butler Of France
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Renaud Count Of Clermont
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Hugh Count Of Clermont
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Ermengardis
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Adeliza De CLERMONT
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Hildouin I Seigneur De Rameru
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Hildouin II De Rameru
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Hildouin III De Rameru, Count Of Montdidier And Roucy
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Anonima
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Margaret De Roucy
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Giselbert Count Of Roucy
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Ebles I Count Of Rheims And Roucy
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(Unk Dau)
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Adele De Roucy
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Regnier IV Count Of Hainault
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Beatrix Of Hainault
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Hedwig Of France
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Alice De VERE
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Robert Fitz WINMARK
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Swain Of Essex, Baron Of Rayleigh
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Beatrix
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Robert FITZ SURIN Of Essex, Baron Of Rayleigh
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Thursten De Bastenburgh
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Hugh With The Beard De Montfort
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Hugh De Montfort, Baron Of Haughley
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(Unk Dau) De Montfort
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Henry Of Essex, Baron Of Rayleigh
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Robert Le BIGOT
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Roger BIGOD, Baron Of Framlingham
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Gunnor BIGOD
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Ralph II De TOENI, Seigneur Of Tonsi And Conches
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Roger I De TOENI
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Robert De TOENI, Lord Of Belvoir
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Raimond Borrel Count Of Barcelona
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Stephanie Of Barcelona
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Ermisende
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Alice De TOENI
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Adelais
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Agnes Lucia Of Essex
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(Unk) De VALOINES
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Piers De VALOINES, Baron Of Bennington
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Roger De VALOINES, Baron Of Bennington
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Nigel I
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Aubrey De St SAUVEUR
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Cicely De VALOGNES
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Ranulf The Moneyer
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Richard FITZRANULF
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John FITZRICHARD
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Agnes FITZJOHN De VESCY
Descendants of Geoffrey De SAY