Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page


Family:
Marriage:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Sir Warin De LISLE Death: Abt 7 Dec 1296

Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 08, Lindley-Moate. London: St Catherine Press, 1932. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VIII [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 12-1, Skelmersdale-Towton. London: St Catherine Press, 1953. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XII/1 [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Phillips, Chris, Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++ .*].
  5. Phillips, Chris, Mabel de Muscegros. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 6/19/2003. Subject: Mabel de Muscegros, wife of Hervey de Stafford & Robert de Li sle, CP correction?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/EC-aEmzidco/m/qZSyKystWP8J. Author address: cgp100 at cgp100 dot dabsol dot co dot uk. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 6/19/2003-162624].
  6. Weber, Jim, Mabel de Muscegros. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 5/26/2003. Subject: FW: Mabel de Muscegros, wife of Hervey de Stafford & Robert de Li sle, CP correction?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Bb6wGow0nZo/m/mCqn7EPsTScJ. Author address: jimweber at nwintl dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Jim Weber SGM 5/26/2003-180035].
  7. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p[0-9]*].
  8. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p[0-9]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
[Ref: CP V p335f, CP VIII p70, CP++ Stafford 6/22/2003 (CP XII/1 p171 and XIV p589), Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p199],
mother:
[Ref: CP XII/1 p171 (with corr in XIV p589)]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
father:
Richard de Mucegros [Ref: CP XII/1 p171 (with corr in XIV p589]
Sources for death Information
date:
living 17 May 1271 [Ref: CP V p335f, CP++ Stafford 6/22/2003 (CP XII/1 p171), Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581]
living Apr 1242 [Ref: CP XII/1 p171]
Sources with Information about marriage to Hervey De STAFFORD, Baron Of Stafford
date:
first marriage of Mabel [Ref: CP V p335f, CP VIII p70, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p200],
names:
[Ref: CP XII/1 p171]
Sources with Information about marriage to Robert De LISLE
date:
before 1252 [Ref: CP VIII p70, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581]
second marriage of Mabel [Ref: CP V p335f, CP XII/1 p171 (with corr in XIV p589), Richardson RoyalAnc v4p200],
child:
[Ref: CP VIII p48f, CP VIII p71, Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581]
Research Notes:
Lady of Finborough [Ref: CP V p335f]

maritagium included the manor of Great Finborough, Suffolk [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v3p581]

I am not sure that the two entries [CP VIII p70 and CP XII/1 p171] are talking about the same Mabel. I believe that Richard de Muscegros was father of Robert de Muscegros, in which case XII/1:171 might be indicating that the Mabel who was wife of Hervey de Stafford was one generation earlier and an aunt of the Mabel who married Robert de Lisle. Hervey de Stafford died in 1241, while Robert de Lisle was the son of a "bef. Feb 1239/40" marriage and was of age before 1264 when he obtained a charter. It doesn't make sense for a woman to marry as a 2nd husband, a man who might not have quite been born when her 1st husband died.
CP XII/1 was written well after VIII, and the editors might have been aware of what they were doing when they made the information different. XIV may be making a bad correction, in trying to make them agree. [Ref: Jim Weber SGM 5/26/2003-180035]

at least it is clear that Mabel the wife of Hervey de Stafford is described as the daughter of Robert, not Richard, de Muscegros.
This comes in the form of an order, dated 29 April 1242 to the sheriff of Staffordshire that Mabel the daughter of Robert de "Mucegros" who was the wife of Hervey de Stafford was to have full seisin of the custody of the land which was of Ralph de Mutton in Ingerstreht, Grettewich' and in Rowell' which the same Hervey left to Mabel in his last will. {Calendar of Close Rolls 1237-42, p. 418; 26 Henry III Part I, m. 4; the leaving of lands to his wife is mentioned by CP} [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 6/19/2003-162624]

Mabel the wife of Robert de Insula (de Lisle) is also stated to be the daughter of Sir Robert de Muscegros in the transaction dated 17 May 1271, referred to by CP, by which Robert and Mabel quitclaim to Sir John de Muscegros 10 librates of land which they hold of him in Kenemerton, which Mabel had in free marriage of the gift of her father, Robert de Muscegros. [Ref: Chris Phillips SGM 6/19/2003-162624]



Pedigree of Mabel De MUSCEGROS
          /-----Richard De MUSCEGROS
 /-----Sir Robert De MUSCEGROS
Mabel De MUSCEGROS
|                                                      /-----William MALET
|                                             /-----Robert MALET
|                                            |        |         /-----Gilbert Crespin, Lord Of Tillieres
|                                            |         \-----Esilia CRISPIN
|                                            |                  \-----Gunnor De ANJOU
|                                    /-----Robert MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet
|                                   |        |                  /-----Hugh With The Beard De Montfort
|                                   |        |         /-----Hugh De Montfort, Baron Of Haughley
|                                   |         \-----Emily Of Montfort
|                           /-----William MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet
|                  /-----Gilbert MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet
|                 |        |         /-----Ralph PICOT
|                 |         \-----Eugenia PICOT
|         /-----Sir William MALET, Baron Of Curry Malet, MC Surety
|        |        |         /-----Ralph PICOT
|        |         \-----Alice PICOT
 \-----Hawise MALET



Descendants of Mabel De MUSCEGROS
1. Mabel De MUSCEGROS m1. Hervey De STAFFORD, Baron Of Stafford m2. Robert De LISLE
m. Hervey De STAFFORD, Baron Of Stafford father: Hervey De STAFFORD mother: Pernell De FERRIERS
m. Robert De LISLE father: Robert De LISLE mother: Alice FITZ GEROLD

2nd generation

2. Sir Warin De LISLE m. Alice De MONTFORT
m. Alice De MONTFORT father: Sir Piers De MONTFORT mother: Maud De La MARE

3rd generation

4. Sir Robert De LISLE, Lord Lisle Of Rougemont m. Margaret De BEAUCHAMP
m. Margaret De BEAUCHAMP father: Sir Walter De BEAUCHAMP mother: Alice De TONI

4th generation

5. John De LISLE, K.G., Lord Lisle of Rougemont m. Maud De GREY
m. Maud De GREY father: Sir Henry De GREY, Lord Grey Of Wilton mother: Anne De ROCKLEY
9. Elizabeth De LISLE m. Edmund PEVEREL
m. Edmund PEVEREL father: Sir Robert PEVEREL mother: Alice

5th generation

12. Robert De LISLE, Lord Lisle Of Rougemont m1. m2. Agnes m3. Margaret STRATHBOGIE
m. Agnes
m. Margaret STRATHBOGIE father: Sir Aymer STRATHBOGIE mother: Maria
15. Elizabeth De LISLE Of Rougemont m. Sir William ALDEBURGH, Lord Aldeburgh
m. Sir William ALDEBURGH, Lord Aldeburgh father: Sir Ives ALDEBURGH mother: Mary
16. Alice De LISLE m1. Robert De HOLAND m2. Sir Edmund De HENGRAVE m3. Richard WYCHINGHAM
m. Robert De HOLAND father: Sir Robert De HOLAND, Lord Holand mother: Elizabeth
m. Sir Edmund De HENGRAVE father: Sir Thomas De HENGRAVE mother: Isabel
m. Richard WYCHINGHAM
18. Margaret PEVEREL m. Sir William De La POLE
m. Sir William De La POLE father: Sir Richard De La POLE mother: Joan