Person Info
- Name: Eva
- Sex: F
Parents:
- Father:
- Swan
Family:
Marriage:
Children:
- David Birth: 1
- Walter Stewart, High Steward Of Scotland Birth: 2
Death: 1241
- Leonard Birth: 3
- Avelina Of Scotland
- Elizabeth
Bibliography
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Ravilious, John, Sir Walter Stewart. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/28/2006. Subject: Sir Walter Stewart 3rd High Steward of Scotland. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/al-nzOK3nkU/m/lIGnhsDsZlUJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/28/2006-035059].
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Ravilious, John, Neil Earl of Carrick and wife Isabella. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 11/25/2005. Subject: The Earls of Carrick and their descendants. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/gPo0pi_--3g/m/IwavekVrC1UJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 11/25/2005-002926].
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MacEwen, Andrew B W, Seven Scottish Countesses III - Cristina de Brus, Countess of Dunbar, The Genealogist 17,2 (2003), pp223-233. NYPL APA 82-1000. Available at https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/genealogist-the/image/. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: MacEwen 7Countesses Dunbar p[0-9]*].
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Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p[0-9]*].
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Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP I p[0-9]*].
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Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9. NYPL ARZ+ (Wallop) (Watney, V. J. Wallop family). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/213421. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Watney WALLOP #[0-9]*].
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Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].
Sources for birth and parent Information
- father:
- [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/28/2006-035059, SP I p12]
Sources with Information about marriage to Alan High Steward Of Scotland
- child:
- [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/28/2006-035059, John Ravilious SGM
11/25/2005-002926, MacEwen 7Countesses Dunbar p233, Paget HRHCharles p181,
Paget HRHCharles p211, SP I p12 (with corr in IX p1), SP I p12, Watney WALLOP
#430, Watney WALLOP #919, Weis AR7 #121C]
Research Notes:
said to have been daughter of Swan, son of Thor, Lord of Tippermuir and
Tranent, but this seems to be founded on a mistaken reading by Duncan
Stewart of a charter in the Register of Scone [Ref: SP I p12]
her name was certainly Eva, but her parentage is unknown [Ref: SP I p12 (with
corr in IX p1)]
The following is the charter from Scone in question and it certainly states
that Walter fitz Alan is the grandson of Swain son of Thor:
Liber Ecclesie de Scon, Munimenta Vetustiora Monasterii Sancte Trinitatis
et Sancti Michaelis De Scon, edited by Cosmo Innes, Bannatyne Club, Edinburgi,
MDCCCXLIII:
Pages 47-48:
Confirmatio Alexandri regis concessionis Waltreri filii Alani de terra quam
Swanus filius Thori fecit. Alexander Dei gratia Rex Scottorum omnibus probis
hominibus totius terre sue clericis et laicis salutem. Sciant presentes et
futuri me concessisse et hac carta mea confirmasse concessionem illam quam
Waltreus filius Alani fecit Deo et ecclesie Sancte Trinitas et Sancti
Michaelis de Scon et canonicis ibidem Deo servientibus et servituris de tota
terra illa quam Suanus filius Thori avus eiusdem Walteri eisdem canonicis
dedit in Tibermur per divisas contentas in confirmatione eiusdem Walteri et de
quodam tofto quod fuit aurifabri cum aliis toftis proximis adiacentibus eidem
tofto per divisas contentas in eadem confirmatione et de quadam terrula supra
fontem qui vocatur fons regis per divisas contentas in eadem confirmacione et
de quadam piscaria de Carnes. Tenendum in puram et perpetuam elemosinam cum
communione pasture et aisiamento nemoris eiusdem Walteri et ceteris communibus
aisiamentis de Tubermur ita libere et quiete plenarie et pacifice sicut
confirmatio eiusdem Walteri eisdem canonicis inde facta testatur [salvo]
servicio meo. Testibus Willelmo de Boscho cancellario, Willelmo Cumin.
[Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/28/2006-035059]
If the accounts given in Scots Peerage are correct, the problem concerning
identifying the wife (wives) of Alan fitz Walter emanates from the names given
in the charters. As Tim noted, in SP I:12 Eva, daughter of Swan, is noted as
having been married to an 'Alan fitz Walter': the error is not in the name,
but the identification of Alan. The footnote reads:
'(1) Liber de Scon, No. 125. The person referred to being Alan, son of
Walter Ruthven. Cf. the charter cited, and the Chartulary of Lindores, Scot.
Hist. Soc. Ed. 30, 244.' [1]
The account in SP concerning the family of Ruthven (Earls of Gowrie)
essentially dovetails with this version, with the apparent error that Alan,
father of Walter fitz Alan de Ruthven, is identified as 'Alan, son of Swan'
[2]. Other sources indicate that besides Tranent and Tippermuir, the lands of
Ruthven were held by Swan son of Thor [3]: if this is correct, it would appear
the Ruthven identification is correct, and that the problem is one of "the
name's the same" {i.e. Walter fitz Alan -> de Ruthven, not the Stewart).
If this is in fact the case, it does appear from the other charters you
cited that Walter fitz Alan, the Steward, had a wife named Eva. I do wonder
about her identification; the query concerning the passage of lands from the
alleged wife Alesta (daughter of Morgund of Mar) to the Stewart family still
remains. [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/28/2006-035059]
Pedigree of Eva
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