Genealogy of the Marshall Family,
including Medieval and Ancient Lines

Updated: 09-30-2024.

Submitted and Maintained by Bill Marshall, bill.marshall@verizon.net.


Additions and corrections appreciated (especially with sources). My current list of sources is here. Homepage here.

Index of Medieval and Ancient Lines is here, notable people here, and Gedcom available to be downloaded.

Index of Modern Lines (immigrants to America and their descendants) is here, notable people here, and Gedcom here.


Individual Page


Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. William De COURTENAY Birth: 1 Death: Before 1190
  2. Reginald De COURTENAY Birth: Abt 1150 Death: 27 Sep 1194
  3. Robert De COURTENAY Birth: 4 Death: Before 29 Sep 1210

Marriage:
Bibliography
  1. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 03 Canonteigh-Cutts. London: St Catherine Press, 1913. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 3 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo03coka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP III [Ap][p0-9].*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 04 Dacre-Dysart. London: St Catherine Press, 1916. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Vol 4 also available at http://archive.org/completepeerageo04byucoka Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP IV [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 05 E-Goojerat. London: St Catherine Press, 1926. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP V [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Phillips, Chris, Proposed Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP++(proposed) .*].
  5. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.2 (#201-#400): Nichtstandesgemasse und Illegitime Nachkommen der Regierenden Hauser Europas. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1983. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.2 #[0-9]*].
  6. Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Europaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten, New Series. III.4 (#601-#820): Das Feudale Frankreich und sein Einfluss auf die Welt des Mittelalters. Marburg: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: ES III.4 #[0-9]*].
  7. Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166. Vol II: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum. Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk: Boydell Press, 2002. NYPL ARF 03-4178 vol 2. Corrections at http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/domesday-descendants-corrigenda.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p[0-9]*].
  8. Page, William, Victoria County History of Berkshire, London: St Catherine Press, Stamford St, 1924. Philadelphia Free Public Library A942 V661 Vol 1-4. Volume 1&2 available at http://archive.org/details/victoriahistoryo01ditcuoft, volume 4 text available at british-history.ac.uk/vch/berks/vol4. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Page VCHBerks v[0-9]p[0-9]*].
  9. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p[0-9]*].
  10. Borthwick, Richard, Reynold de Courtenay. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 5/28/1999. Subject: Reynold de Courtenay. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/I-f8QF_2SVE/m/MvnyJHDVraoJ. Author address: rgbor at cyllene dot uwa dot edu dot au. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 5/28/1999].
  11. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1[pc][0-9]*].
  12. Richardson, Douglas, Royal Ancestry. Salt Lake City, Utah: Douglas Richardson, 2013. NYPL JFF 16-1184 v1-5 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p[0-9]*].
  13. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 1125 [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
parents:
Miles Seigneur de COURTENAY (#11283) & Ermengarde de NEVERS (#11284) [Ref: ES III.4 #629],
father:
Miles de COURTENAY (#11283) [Ref: CP III p465(c)]
Sources for death Information
date:
1189 or 1190 [Ref: CP V p72f]
1189/90 [Ref: ES III.4 #629]
Oct-Dec 1190 [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]
between Mich 1190 and Mich 1191 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p315]
Sources with Information about marriage to (Unk)
date:
first marriage of Renaud [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p314, Weis AR7 #138],
names:
Renaud & unidentified first wife [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p315]
Renaud & unidentified mother of son Reginald [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]
Renaud De COURTENAY & ___ [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p314],
child:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p315]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Egeline (#14084) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p315]
Sources with Information about marriage to Matilda FITZ ROBERT
date:
after 1173 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p315]
second marriage of Renaud [Ref: CP IV p317, Weis AR7 #138],
names:
[Ref: ES III.2 #354, Paget HRHCharles p12, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p15]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
names:
Renaud de COURTENAY (#11279) & Matilda [Ref: Keats-Rohan DD p429, Keats-Rohan DD p945]
Research Notes:
of Sutton, Berkshire, and Walddesdon, Buckinghamshire, and in right of his 2nd wife, of Okehampton and Musbury, Devon, Hemington, Somerset, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p314]
of Sutton, Berks [Ref: CP III p465(c), CP V p72f]

of uncertain parentage [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p314]

family described in VCH Berks 4:371 [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 5/28/1999]

different man from the Seigneur of Courtenay, so that the English and French families were not related as shown in chart on CP IV p317 [Ref: CP++(proposed) Devon 3/16/2003 (CP IV p317)]

1150: witness at Rouen in Normandy of charter of Henry, Duke of Normandy (later Henry II of England) [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]

abt 1150: lost his great possessions in France, the French King, Louis VII, seizing them and granting them in appanage to his own youngest brother, Pierre (ancestor of all the French Courtenays), with Renauds' daughter Elisabeth in marriage [Ref: CP III p465(c)]

1160: received a grant of manor of Sutton, co Berks, from the king [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]

1160/61: held lands in Sutton, Berks [Ref: Richard Borthwick SGM 5/28/1999]

1160: held land in Sutton Cortenay [Ref: Page VCHBerks v4p372]

1160-on: in constant attendance on the king, perhaps a royal secretary [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]

1171: accompanied king in his campaign in Ireland [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]

1175-76: appears holding land in Devon for first time [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]

1175/84: granted the manor by King Henry II [Ref: Page VCHBerks v4p372, Richard Borthwick SGM 5/28/1999]

The story is told that the great possessions in France of Renaud de Courtenay (a man of high social rank and described in personal terms as in effect a glorified bandit) were seized about 1150 by King Louis VII who granted them to his own youngest brother, Pierre (ancestor of the French Courtenays), with Renaud's daughter, Elizabeth, in marriage, and that Renaud then appeared in England as a minor functionary of the English Court with a small manor and another family. Although Old-CP IIII 102 states that the alleged connection between the English and French families has not been established, CP IV 317 inexplicably revived the connection. Herbert F Seversmith, _The Ancestry of Roger Ludlow_, pp 2419-2424, in addition to decomstrating the lack of contemporary evidence, points out the chronological, personal character, and social status difficulties with this identification. (other Renaud #11279) [Ref: Weis AR7 #138]



Pedigree of Renaud De COURTENAY
Renaud De COURTENAY



Descendants of Renaud De COURTENAY
1. Renaud De COURTENAY m1. (Unk) m2. Matilda FITZ ROBERT
m. (Unk)
m. Matilda FITZ ROBERT father: Robert Baron Of Okehampton mother: Maud D'AVRANCHES, Lady Du Sap In Normandy

2nd generation

2. William De COURTENAY m.
3. Reginald De COURTENAY m. Hawise De COURCY
m. Hawise De COURCY father: William De COURCY mother: Maud D'AVRANCHES, Lady Du Sap In Normandy
4. Robert De COURTENAY m1. Maud FITZURSE m2. Alice De RUMELY, Lady Of Cockermouth And Aller
m. Maud FITZURSE father: Renaud FITZURSE, Baron Of Bulwick mother: Beatrice De LIMESY
m. Alice De RUMELY, Lady Of Cockermouth And Aller father: William FITZ DUNCAN, Earl Of Moray mother: Alice De RUMILLY, Lady Of Skipton

3rd generation

6. Egline De COURTENAY m. Gilbert BASSET
m. Gilbert BASSET father: Thomas BASSET mother: Adeliza De DUNSTANVILLE
9. Sir Robert De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton m. Mary De VERNON
m. Mary De VERNON father: William De REVIERS, Earl Of Devon mother: Maud De BEAUMONT

4th generation

11. Eustacia BASSET m1. Thomas De VERDUN m2. Richard De Camville
m. Thomas De VERDUN father: Bertram De VERDUN mother: Matilda FERRERS
m. Richard De Camville father: Gerard De Camville mother: Nichola De La HAY, Lady Of Munden
13. Sir John De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton m1. Emma m2. Maud m3. Isabel De VERE
m. Emma
m. Maud
m. Isabel De VERE father: Sir Hugh De VERE, Earl Of Oxford mother: Hawise De QUINCEY
16. Engeline COURTENAY m. Philip IV De COLUMBERS, Baron Of Nether Stowey
m. Philip IV De COLUMBERS, Baron Of Nether Stowey father: Philip III De COLUMBERS, Baron Of Nether Stowey
17. Hawise De COURTENAY m1. Sir John De NEVILLE m2. Sir John De GATESDEN
m. Sir John De NEVILLE father: Hugh De NEVILLE mother: Joan De CORNHILL
m. Sir John De GATESDEN

5th generation

18. Idoine De Camville m. Sir William De LONGESPEE
m. Sir William De LONGESPEE father: William LONGESPEE, Earl of Salisbury mother: Ela Of Salisbury
20. Sir Hugh De COURTENAY, Baron Of Oakhampton m. Eleanor Le DESPENSER
m. Eleanor Le DESPENSER father: Sir Hugh Le DESPENSER, Justiciar Of England mother: Aline BASSET
21. (Unk) De COLUMBERS m. Sir John De VALLETORT
m. Sir John De VALLETORT
22. Joan De COLUMBERS m. Gilbert HANSARD
m. Gilbert HANSARD father: John HANSARD mother: Maud De MOWBRAY
24. John De COLUMBERS, Baron Of Nether Stowey m. Alice PENESHERST
m. Alice PENESHERST father: Stephen De PENESHERST mother: Rohese
26. John NEVILLE m. Margaret
m. Margaret mother: (Unk Dau) BELET
27. Joan De NEVILLE m1. Henry De La MARE m2. Sir Walter De La HYDE
m. Henry De La MARE father: Sir William De La MARE mother: Basile
m. Sir Walter De La HYDE
28. Margaret GATESDEN m1. John De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi m2. Sir William PAYNEL, Lord Paynel
m. John De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi father: Ralph De CAMOYS, Baron Of Flockthorpe In Hardi
m. Sir William PAYNEL, Lord Paynel father: William PAYNEL mother: Maud HUSEE