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• Name: Amy De GAVESTON
• Sex: F
• Birth: 1312 ^b
• Death: 1340 ^d


Parents:

• Father:
  
• Piers De GAVESTON, Earl Of Cornwall Birth: Abt 1284 in Bearn, Bascony Death: 19 Jun 1312

Family:
Marriage:

• John De DRIBY on Abt 1338 .^m1
  
• John De DRIBY Birth: Abt 1312 Death: After 30 Nov 1357

Children:

1. John De DRIBY Birth: Abt 1338 Death: Before 1378
2. Alice De DRIBY Birth: Abt 1340 Death: 12 Oct 1412

Bibliography

Sources for birth and parent Information

date:

after 6 Jan 1312 [Ref: CP III p434(c) (with corr in XIV p208)]

soon after 6 Jan 1312 [Ref: Weis AR7 #16A],

father:

[Ref: Farnham Pedigrees p17, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p451, Roberts RD600 p532, Roberts USPres p198, Weis AR7 #16A]

illegitimate child of Piers [Ref: Reed AmieGalveston],

mother:

not Margaret DeCLARE [Ref: Reed AmieGalveston, Roberts RD600 p532],

name:

Anne [Ref: Farnham Pedigrees p17]

Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information

mother:

Margaret DeCLARE (#11172) [Ref: CP III p434(c) (with corr in XIV p208), Faris PA2 p296, Faris PA2 p338, Roberts USPres p198, Weis AR7 #16A],

note:

clearly not a legitimate dau of Piers and Margaret [Ref: CP++(proposed) Cornwall 12/31/2006 (CP III p434(c))]

Sources for death Information

date:

[Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/21/1999]

living 12 Jun 1340 [Ref: Faris PA2 p298]

Sources with Information about marriage to John De DRIBY

date:

abt 1338 [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/21/1999]

before 18 Jun 1338 [Ref: Faris PA2 p298, Hunt Gavaston2 p47]

in or before 1334 [Ref: Hunt Gavaston3 p97, Weis AR7 #16A],

names:

[Ref: Faris PA2 p338],

child:

[Ref: Faris PA2 p300, Farnham Pedigrees p17, Hunt Gavaston2 p47, Hunt Gavaston2 p50, Hunt Gavaston3 p97, Paul Reed SGM 6/21/1999, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p451, Roberts RD600 p532, Roberts USPres p198, Weis AR7 #16A]

Research Notes:
Damsel of the Chamber to Queen Philippa [Ref: Weis AR7 #16A]

28 Jan. 1332: (CPR 1330-4, Edw. III, v. 2, p. 224) Ratification of a grant, for life, by queen Philippa to Amicia de Gaveston, her damsel, of the lands in Havering atte Boure and elsewhere in the county of Essex, which escheated to the queen by the forfeiture of Robert William. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/9/1999-A]

16 June 1332: (CPR 1330-4, Edw. III, v. 2, p. 306) Grant, for life, to Amy de Gaveston, damsel of the chamber of queen Philippa, for service to the queen, of the manor of Woghfeld, co. Berks, an escheat by the forfeiture of Roger de Mortuo Mari, late earl of March. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/9/1999-A]

25 Feb. 1333: (CPR 1330-4, Edw. III, v. 2, p. 414) Inspeximus and confirmation of letters patent of queen Philippa, dated Windsor 17 Nov. 5 Edward III., being a release to Amice de Gaveston, her damsel, of the rents and services due from the escheated lands of Robert William in Averyng atte Boure and elsewhere in the county of Essex, lately granted to her for life, and a grant of the waste due to the queen by reason of the forfeiture. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/9/1999-A]

1334: Fine. trinity, 8 Edward III. between John de Driby of Tatershale, parson of a mediety of the church of Hedersete, PLAINTIFF, and Roger de Estbriggeforde, chaplain, and John Cleymond, of Kirketon, DEFENDANTS of the manor of Breedon, etc. The manor is declared to be the right of Roger who granted it to John de Dryby for life, the reversion to John son of Thomas de Dryby and ANNE THE DAUGHTER of Peter de Gaveston and the heirs of John. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/6/1999]

described in a fine dated Trinity 1334 as "Anne the daughter of Peter de Gaveston." The only known wife of Peter de Gaveston was Margaret de CLARE. Amy could not be a legitimate daughter of Peter and Margaret as she was not recorded as sharing in the Clare inheritance [Ref: Faris PA2 p299]

18 June 1338: (CPR 1338-40, Edw. III, v. 4, p96) Whereas the king lately granted for life to Amy de Gaveston the manor of Woghfeld. co. Berks, an escheat by the forfeiture of Roger de Mortuo Mari, the king's enemy, he has granted it to John de Driby, who has now married her, and the said Amy license to fell trees in the woods of the manor at their will, and to apply the moneys arising from the sale of these to their own use, and in defending the right of the king and Amy in pleas moved against them touching the manor. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/9/1999-B]

18 May 1340: (CPR 1338-1340, p. 522) Grant to John Brocas that the lands in Donemowe, co. Essex ..., and the lands in Wokefeld held for life by Amy de Gaveston of the king's grant, shall remain to him in fee, to wit the lands in Essex as of the value of 10l. 5s. yearly and those in Wokefeld as of the value of 11l. 2s. yearly, as appears by the extents.... [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/22/1999]

12 June 1340: (CPR 1338-40, Edw. III, v. 4, p529) Mandate to John de Dryby and Anne [sic, Amy] his wife to attorn in the usual manner to John Brocas for the services due from lands in Wokefeld, which they hold for the life of Anne of the king's grant, the king having granted the reversion of those lands to him in fee. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/9/1999-B]

The point that NO good share of Margaret de Clare's lands ended up among any of the descendants of Amy de Gaveston is a FORMIDABLE point of evidence. [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 6/8/1999]

Donald L. Jacobus's summary of the situation, printed as an editor's note following Hunt's third article in TAG:
Quite aside from the Bulkeley connection, for which evidence has been presented, we feel that Mr. Hunt, with an assist from Mr. Sheppard, has made an important historical discovery in proving that the unfortunate Piers de Gavaston left descendants by his near-royal wife, Margaret de Clare, granddaughter of Edward I, especially in view of the unanimity of English historians and peerage writers in asserting that their only daughter was Joan who died at the age of fifteen. Since the evidences and proofs have been split between three articles over the course of more than four years, I feel that they should briefly be summed up here for the benefit of all who may be interested. Mr. Hunt originally was able to present only circumstantial evidence for his conclusion that Amy (or Anne) de Gavaston, wife of John de Dryby, was daughter of Piers de Gavaston and Margaret de Clare. The chief items of evidence were:
(1) An early chronicle in Latin states that Piers de Gavaston had a daughter born soon after the feast of the Epiphany [6 Jan.,] 1312 [supra, 35:100-1].
(2) The Patent Rolls show that Amy or Anne de Gavaston [the name is variously read], a damsel of the chamber of Edward III's queen, was granted a manor for life in 1332, and had lands in Essex released to her 25 Feb. 1333 when she will have attained her 21st year, and by 1338 was wife of John de Driby. The age perfectly fits the nameless daughter of Piers.
(3) Her proved daughter Alice, lady Basset, made William, lord Ros, supervisor of her will. He was a first cousin once removed of Alice if Amy (or Anne) was daughter of Piers and Margaret.
To this circumstantial evidence, the present article adds one item of direct proof:
(4) Amy (or Anne) was definitely called daughter of Peter [i.e., Piers] de Gavaston in the Dryby Fine of 1334.
The conclusion therefore seems to be unassailable. Her date of birth makes it certain that Margaret de Clare must have been her mother. If it be objected that she might have been illegitimate, that is easily answered. She is not called a "base" daughter in the Dryby Fine. The downfall of Piers de Gavaston was so catastrophic, and the hatred of the leading barons for him so great, that no tenderness would have been shown towards an illegitimate child. Only the fact that her mother was own cousin of King Edward III can explain her position in court, the grant of a manor to her for life, and her marriage into a gentry family of standing. I feel that future writers on the peerage and of this period in English history will have to give due consideration to the facts presented in Mr. Hunt's articles. [Ref: Don Stone SGM 6/6/1999]

(1) This refers to the life of Edward II by the anonymous canon of Bridlington, and (supported by evidence from Edward II's wardrobe accounts) it records the birth of JOAN Gaveston, as I recall I stated yesterday or the day before. I will have to check the chronology of Piers' marriage to Margaret, to see whether they might have had another child before January 1312. If so it did not survive. At Piers' death he was clearly stated to have left only one daughter, Joan, and no reference is made to Margaret's pregnancy at that time so it is unlikely there could have been a posthumous child.
(2) Except that the daughter born in 1312, whose name is not stated in the chronicle cited above, was really Joan, who had died in 1325. We don't know when Amy was born, but Piers being the sort of person he was I would not see it as beyond the long arm of coincidence that he--or any medieval lord, for that matter--could have had two children by different mothers born around the same time. (I know a man today who has two such children, born six weeks apart.) The chronicle cited above does not record twin daughters born in Jan. 1312.
(3) This proves nothing. Executors were not invariably relatives.
(4) I don't dispute this, but she could have been Piers' daughter without having been Margaret's daughter. [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 6/6/1999]

evidence directly identifies her father as Piers, evidence directly identifies "only daughter and heir" of each of Margaret deClare's marriages, and neither was Amy. No evidence of Margaret's illegitimate daughter, since she did nothing to provide for her. Not favored or provided for by Edward II suggests he disapproved of the relationship [Ref: Reed AmieGalveston]

Hamilton [Jeff Hamilton, "Another Daughter for Piers Gaveston? Amie de Gaveston, damsel of the Queen's Chamber," *Medieval Prosopography*, 19 (1998), 177-86.] acknowledges that it is not possible to insist definitively the possibility that Margaret did conceive and bear at least one child prior to the birth of her daughter Joan in January 1312. He emphasizes, however, that "the important occasions of Gaveston's life... were all celebrated, generally to excess, by the king...." (several examples follow). This was also true of Margaret's delivery at York in 1312, which Hamilton dates to 12 January, but we hear nothing of any similar observance by the king of the births of any other children to Margaret and Piers (pp. 178-79). In Hamilton's words, "it is difficult, if not impossible, to imagine that Margaret de Clare could have given birth at any point between 1307 and 1313 without some record of the birth surviving, particularly in the royal wardrobe books or other exchequer accounts, or in contemporary chroniclers' accounts" (p. 179). [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 6/8/1999]

Hamilton admits the fine of 1334 as proving Amie was a daughter of Piers Gaveston, but sees it as important that the fine does not also identify her as Margaret de Clare's daughter. He feels that Amie was probably born before Piers married Margaret, and may even have been brought up in Margaret's household after they married (p. 132). [Ref: John Carmi Parsons SGM 6/8/1999]



Pedigree of Amy De GAVESTON
                                                                /-----Arnaud De GABASTON
                                                       /-----Raimond-Garsie De GABASTON
                                              /-----Garsie De GABASTON
                                             |         \-----Esquine
                                     /-----Raimong-Garsie De GABASTON
                            /-----Bernard De GABASTON
                   /-----Garsie De GABASTON
          /-----Sir Ernaud De GAVESTON
 /-----Piers De GAVESTON, Earl Of Cornwall
|        |         /-----Arnaud-Guillaume De MARSAN
|         \-----Clarmunda De MARSAU Et De LOUVIGNY
Amy De GAVESTON



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