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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Margaret De BRYAN Death: Before 5 Sep 1363
  2. Philippe De BRIAN Death: After 20 Oct 1406
  3. Elizabeth De BRYAN Birth: Abt 1340 Death: After 1 Jul 1359

Marriage: Children:
  1. Sir Guy De BRYAN Birth: Abt 1350 Death: Abt 30 Mar 1386
  2. Sir William De BRIEN Birth: 2 Death: 23 Sep 1395
  3. Philip De BRYAN Birth: 3 Death: Before 14 Feb 1388
  4. Margaret De BRYAN

Bibliography
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Sources for birth and parent Information
date:
abt 1309 (of age in 1330) [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1]
abt 1309, of age in 1330 [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222]
abt 1311 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 2/9/2009-181018]
age 30+ in 1349 (IPM says 30, not 40, CIPM 9 282 no 333) [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998]
age 30+ in 1349 [Ref: CP II p361, CP++ Bryan 2/22/2005 (CP II p361 and XIV p118)]
age 39 in 1349 [Ref: Beltz KnightsofGarter p179],
parents:
[Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446],
father:
[Ref: Banks Baronies v1p139, Beltz KnightsofGarter p179, CP II p361, Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
date:
age 40+ in 1349 [Ref: CP II p361 (with corr in CP XIV p118)]
Sources for death Information
date:
[Ref: Beltz KnightsofGarter pcliv, CP I p373, CP II p361, CP IV p274, Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998, Richardson PA p268, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p2, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]
14 Rich II [Ref: Banks Baronies v1p139]
Sources for burial Information
place:
[Ref: CP II p361, CP IV p274, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p2, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]
Sources with Information about marriage to Joan De CARREU
date:
before 31 Jan 1347 [Ref: Douglas Richardson SGM 11/16/2003-005905]
first marriage of Guy [Ref: Beltz KnightsofGarter p181, CP II p361 (with corr in XIV p118), CP IV p325, CP V p463, Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p328],
child:
[Ref: Beltz KnightsofGarter p181, CP IV p325, CP V p463, Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p273, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p2, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p328]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Elizabeth wife of Hugh Lord Courtenay (#23542) [Ref: Beltz KnightsofGarter p54, Burke Peerage p591]
Sources with Information about marriage to Elizabeth De MONTAGU
date:
1349 or 1350, before 10 Jul 1350 [Ref: CP II p361]
before 10 Jul 1350 [Ref: CP I p373, CP IV p274, Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998, Richardson PA p268, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]
second marriage of Guy [Ref: CP IV p325, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p482]
second marriage of Guy and third of Elizabeth Beltz KnightsofGarter p181] third marriage of Elizabeth [Ref: Burke Peerage p741, CP XI p388(b)]
third marriage of Elizabeth [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p118],
names:
[Ref: Clutterbuck Hertford v1p481, HoP 1386-1421 v2p515],
child:
[Ref: Banks Baronies v1p139, Beltz KnightsofGarter p181, CP II p361(h), CP II p362, Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998, Richardson PA p281, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p482, Smith ECHYNGHAM p6]
Sources with Inaccurate marriage information
child:
Philippe (#148016) wife of Sir John Chandos [Ref: HoP 1386-1421 v2p515]
Research Notes:
1st Lord Bryan, of Barony cr 1350 [Ref: CP II p361]
Lord Bryan [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p273, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p482, Richardson RoyalAnc v4p118]
Lord Briene [Ref: CP III p149, CP IV p274, CP IV p299, CP IV p325, CP V p463, HoP 1386-1421 v2p515, Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1]

Knt, of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, Clifton Dartmouth and Hardness and Slapton, Devon, Woodsford, Dorset, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p482]
Knt, of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, Clifton Darmouth and Hardiness and Slapton, Devon, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1]
Knt, of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Clifton Dartmouth and Hardness and Slaptoo, Devon, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]
Knt, of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, and Torbrian, Devon [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p273]
Knt, of Laugharne, Carmarthenshire, Walwyn's Castle, Pembrokeshire, Clifton Dartmouth and Hardness and Slapton, Devon, Woodsford, Dorset, etc [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v2p328]
of Laugharne, co Carmarthen, and Walwyn's Castle, co Pembroke [Ref: CP IV p274, CP IV p299, CP V p463]
Knt [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v4p118]

heir of his father [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]

abt 31 Dec 1369: K.G.#51, succeeding Sir John Chandos [Ref: Beltz KnightsofGarter pclii]

K.G. [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p1, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]

11 Jul 1349: in father's IPM, his age given as 30 years and more. CP XIV changes this from 30 to 40, incorrectly [Ref: CP++ Bryan 2/22/2005 (CP II p361 and XIV p118)]

appears to have married 1st Alice Holway, but she possibly was his father's wife [Ref: CP II p361]

Governor of St Briavel's castle [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]

Warden of the Forest of Dean [Ref: Richardson RoyalAnc v1p222, Richardson RoyalAnc v2p446]

Apr 1347: "Guy de Briane, knight, lord of Castle Walweyn, and Joan his wife" received an indult to have a portable alter [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998]

Jul 10 1350: Guy de Briane and Elizabeth his wife, late the wife of Giles de Badlesmere, were mentioned [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998]

1359: as guardian of the heir of Sir Oliver de Dynham, held the manor and advowson of Moreleigh [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 2/1/2004-201459]

with the death without issue of Maud de Lovell's children, the next right heirs of Sir Guy, Lord Bryan, were the heirs of his daughters. Chronology and other circumstances indicate that Elizabeth de Bryan, wife of Robert FitzPayn alias De Grey was the eldest of these coheirs [Ref: Paul Reed SGM 10/20/1998]

Knt, of Kemsing, Kent [Ref: Faris PA2 p127]



Pedigree of Sir Guy De BRYAN, K.G., Lord Bryan
 /-----Sir Guy De BRYAN
Sir Guy De BRYAN, K.G., Lord Bryan
|         /-----Gruffudd Ap LLOYD
 \-----Gwenillan Ap LLOYD



Descendants of Sir Guy De BRYAN, K.G., Lord Bryan
1. Sir Guy De BRYAN, K.G., Lord Bryan m1. Joan De CARREU m2. Elizabeth De MONTAGU
m. Joan De CARREU father: Sir John CARREU mother: Joan TALBOT
m. Elizabeth De MONTAGU father: Sir William De MONTAGU, Earl Of Salisbury mother: Katharine De GRANDISON

2nd generation

4. Elizabeth De BRYAN m. Robert FITZ PAYN
m. Robert FITZ PAYN father: Sir Richard De GREY, Lord Grey Of Codnor mother: Joan FITZ PAYN
5. Sir Guy De BRYAN m. Alice De BURES
m. Alice De BURES father: Sir Robert De BURES

3rd generation

10. Isabel FITZ PAYN m. Sir Richard De POYNINGS, Lord Poynings
m. Sir Richard De POYNINGS, Lord Poynings father: Sir Michael POYNINGS, Lord Poynings mother: Joan
12. Elizabeth BRYENE m. Robert LOVELL
m. Robert LOVELL father: Sir John LOVEL, K.G., Lord Lovel and Holand mother: Maud De HOLAND, Baroness Holand

4th generation

13. Joan POYNINGS m. Sir Richard CAMOYS
m. Sir Richard CAMOYS father: Thomas CAMOYS, K.G., Lord Camoys mother: Elizabeth LOUCHES
14. Robert POYNINGS, Lord Poynings m1. Elizabeth De GREY m2. Margaret SQUERY
m. Elizabeth De GREY father: Reynold De GREY, Lord Grey Of Ruthin mother: Margaret De ROOS
m. Margaret SQUERY father: Thomas SQUERY
15. Maud LOVELL m1. Sir Richard STAFFORD m2. John ARUNDEL, K.G., Earl of Arundel
m. Sir Richard STAFFORD father: Sir Humphrey STAFFORD mother: Elizabeth MAUTRAVERS
m. John ARUNDEL, K.G., Earl of Arundel father: John ARUNDEL, Earl of Arundel mother: Eleanor De BERKELEY

5th generation

18. Margaret CAMOYS m. Ralph RADMYLDE
m. Ralph RADMYLDE father: Thomas RADEMYLDE
19. Eleanor CAMOYS m. Sir Roger LEWKNOR
m. Sir Roger LEWKNOR father: Sir Thomas LEWKNOR mother: Philippa DALYNGRIDGE
21. Sir Richard POYNINGS m1. Joan SEAMER m2. Eleanor De BERKELEY
m. Joan SEAMER father: Henry SEAMER
m. Eleanor De BERKELEY father: Sir John De BERKELEY mother: Elizabeth BETTESHORNE
22. Robert POYNINGS m. Elizabeth PASTON
m. Elizabeth PASTON father: William PASTON mother: Agnes BERRY