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Family:
Marriage: Children:
  1. Jean COMYN
  2. Richard COMYN Birth: 1 Death: Abt 1246
  3. Walter COMYN, Earl Of Menteith Birth: 2 Death: Nov 1258

Bibliography
  1. Baker, George, History and Antiquities of the County of Northampton, Volume 1. London: John Bower Nichols and Son, 1822. Available at https://archive.org/details/HistoryAndAntiquitiesOfTheCountyOfNorthamptonBakerVol1. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Baker Northamptonshire p[0-9]*].
  2. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 08, Lindley-Moate. London: St Catherine Press, 1932. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/271412 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP VIII [Ap][p0-9].*].
  3. Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant, vol 11, Ridley-Sinclair. London: St Catherine Press, 1949. Reprinted (4 per page) Gloucester: A Sutton, 1982. Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/27141 Information from this source tagged as [Ref: CP XI [Ap][p0-9].*].
  4. Ravilious, John, First wife of William Comyn. Posting to soc.genealogy.medieval (email list GEN-MEDIEVAL) on 10/29/2007. Subject: 1st wife of William Comyn: a de Vesci ?. Available at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/WnlQUzTXAEs/m/G4W0e0gRFNQJ. Author address: Therav3 at aol dot com. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/29/2007-225008].
  5. Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Paget HRHCharles p[0-9]*].
  6. Roberts, Gary Boyd, The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States: who were themselves notable or left descendants notable in American history, with a 2008 Addendum, Coda, and Final Additions. Baltimore, MD: Gen Pub Co, 2008. NYPL APK 08-4216. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Roberts RD600 p[0-9]*].
  7. Round, J Horace, Origin of the Comyns, Jul 1904, In The Ancestor: Quarterly Review of County and Family History, Number 10, Jul 1904. Available at https://archive.org/details/ancestorquarterl10londuoft.pdf Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Round Comyn p[0-9]*].
  8. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP I p[0-9]*].
  9. Paul, Sir James Balfour, Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904. NYPL ARO (Scots Peerage) (too fragile to copy). Available at https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/216265. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: SP VII p[0-9]*].
  10. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr, David Faris, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 7th Edition, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1992. Information from this source tagged as [Ref: Weis AR7 #[0-9][0-9]*[A-Z]*].

Sources for birth and parent Information
parents:
conjectured to be William de VESCY & Burga de STUTEVILLE [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/29/2007-225008]
Sources with Inaccurate birth and parent Information
date:
younger daughter [Ref: CP XI p143],
father:
Robert Fitz Hugh (#71247) [Ref: CP XI p143, Paget HRHCharles p190, SP I p505(4), Weis AR7 #121A],
name:
Sarah [Ref: CP XI p143, Paget HRHCharles p190, SP I p505(4), Weis AR7 #121A]
Sources for death Information
date:
living 1204 [Ref: Weis AR7 #121A]
Sources with Information about marriage to William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
date:
first marriage of William [Ref: SP I p505, Weis AR7 #121A],
names:
William COMYN & ___ [Ref: CP VIII p660(g), CP XI p143, Paget HRHCharles p190, Roberts RD600 p515, Weis AR7 #121A]
William COMYN & ____ [Ref: SP I p505]
William COMYN & dau Robert FitzHugh [Ref: SP I p505(4)]
William COMYN & first wife [Ref: SP VII p233],
child:
[Ref: CP VIII p660(g), CP XI p143, Paget HRHCharles p190, Roberts RD600 p515, SP I p505, SP VII p233, Weis AR7 #121A]
Research Notes:
first wife identified in error as Sarah, daughter of Robert fita Hugh. The record in the Pipe Rolls includes the following: 'William Cumin accounts for 25 marks and a palfrey for having to wife the younger daughter of Robert Fitz Hugh, with a reasonable part of the frank tenement which was the said Robert's. He has paid into the treasury 20 marks; and he owes 5 marks and a palfrey [Pipe Rolls, 3 John, Rot 13]. She is usually identified as Sarah, younger dau and coheiress of Robert fitz Hugh: '..his 1st wife Sarah, yr da and coh of Robert FitzHugh' (citing CP XI:143 note (e), cites Scots Peerage vol i, p.505, Pipe Roll 3 John p.183, 6 John p.140). J.H.Round has shown that Sarah died without issue. The name of William Comyn's first wife is in fact unknown [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/29/2007-225008]

13 Jun 1213: hostages of the King of Scotland, held for King John, ordered to be surrendered and sent to Portsmouth "... it is to be observed that Alan de Galweya's daughter, who was in custody of Robert fitz Roger, is dead; and the son of William Cumin, who was in custody of Eustace de Vescy, is discharged." It is fairly certain that this son of William Comyn was related to Eustace de Vescy, and was son by first wife. Conjecture that William Comyn's first wife was a sister of Eustace de Vescy [Ref: John Ravilious SGM 10/29/2007-225008]

Robert Fitz Hugh, son of Robert Fitz Sewin ... in 1 John (1199) the sheriff deducted 14pounds blench for Upton, in possession of Robert de Bella-aqua, or Bellew, who had married the eldest daughter and coheiress of Robert Fitz Hugh. In 6 John (1204) William Cumin, husband of the youngest coheiress, owed a palfrey, worth five marks (3 pounds 6 shillings 8 pence), or five marks in money, for a settlement respecting the fine made between Robert de Bella-aqua and James the Jew, of Northampton, concerning the debts of Robert Fitz Hugh. The widow of Bellew was married to John de Cancell or Chaunceux in 15 Hen 3 (1230-1), and being then designated daughter and heiress of Robert Fitz Hugh, it may be presumed her sister was dead without issue. [Ref: Baker Northamptonshire p222]

We may trace, perhaps, the same idea in Lyon's suggestion that the first wife of Richard Cumin's son and successor, William, 'may have been a daughter of Robert Fitz Hugh, who in 1201-2 is said to have married a William Cumin, who paid fines for the marriage' (p.505); for, apart from the fact that, on Lyon's showing, William must in that case have married his first wife some fifty-six years after his father's marriage, Sara, younger daughter and co-heiress of Robert Fitz Hugh, who is the wife referred to, died s.p. [Ref: Round Comyn p115]



Pedigree of (Unk)
                                     /-----Ranulf The Moneyer
                            /-----Richard FITZRANULF
                   /-----John FITZRICHARD
          /-----Eustace Fitz John De BURGO, Constable Of Chester
 /-----William De VESCY, Baron Of Alnwick
|        |         /-----Ivo De VESCY, Baron Of Alnwick
|         \-----Beatrice De VESCY
|                 |         /-----William TYSON, Baron Of Alnwick
|                  \-----Alda TYSON
(Unk)
|                                    /-----(Unk) De Estouteville
|                           /-----Robert De Estouteville
|                  /-----Robert De Estouteville
|                 |         \-----Beatrix
|         /-----Robert De STUTEVILLE, Baron Of Cottingham
|        |         \-----Erneburga
 \-----Burga De STUTEVILLE
          \-----Helwise



Descendants of (Unk)
1. (Unk) m. William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan
m. William COMYN, Earl Of Buchan father: Richard COMYN mother: Hextilde of Tynedale

2nd generation

2. Jean COMYN m. William De ROSS, Earl Of Ross
m. William De ROSS, Earl Of Ross father: Ferquhard Mac TAGGART, Earl Of Ross
3. Richard COMYN m.
4. Walter COMYN, Earl Of Menteith m1. m2. Isabel Countess Of Menteith
m. Isabel Countess Of Menteith father: Maurice The Younger Earl Of Menteith

3rd generation

5. William De ROSS, Earl Of Ross m. Eupheme
m. Eupheme father: Sir Hugh De BARCLAY
6. (Unk) COMYN m. Adam De Bonkyl
m. Adam De Bonkyl father: Alexander De BONKYL
7. Sir John The Red COMYN m1. Eve m2. Alicia De ROOS
m. Eve
m. Alicia De ROOS father: Sir William De ROS, Baron Of Helmsley mother: Lucia FITZ PIERS
11. Isabel COMYN m. Sir Gilchrist MURE
m. Sir Gilchrist MURE

4th generation

12. Isabella De ROSS m1. Sir Thomas MORHAM m2. Edward De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, King Of Irelan m3. Thomas RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray
m. Sir Thomas MORHAM father: Sir Thomas MORHAM
m. Edward De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, King Of Irelan father: Sir Robert De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, Lord Of Annand mother: Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick
m. Thomas RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray father: Sir Thomas RANDOLPH mother: Isabella De KILCONQUHAR
14. Margaret De ROSS m. Sir David FITZ WALTER
m. Sir David FITZ WALTER father: Sir Walter FITZ GILBERT mother: Mary GORDON
15. Sir Hugh De ROSS, Earl Of Ross m1. Matilda De BRUS m2. Margaret GRAHAM
m. Matilda De BRUS father: Sir Robert De BRUS, Earl Of Carrick, Lord Of Annand mother: Margaret Of Carrick, Countess Of Carrick
m. Margaret GRAHAM father: John GRAHAM mother: Isabella
18. Alexander De Bonkyl m1. Christiana DUNBAR m2. Christiana De LILLEBURN
m. Christiana DUNBAR father: Patrick DUNBAR, Earl Of Dunbar mother: Cecilia
m. Christiana De LILLEBURN
20. Sir John The Black COMYN, Lord Of Badenock m. Mary De BALLIOL
m. Mary De BALLIOL father: John De BALLIOL, King Of Scotland mother: Dervorguilla Of Galloway
23. (Unk Dau) COMYN m. Sir Geoffrey MOUBRAY
m. Sir Geoffrey MOUBRAY father: Roger MOUBRAY
24. (Unk Dau) COMYN m. Alexander Of ARGYLL
m. Alexander Of ARGYLL father: Sir Ewen Of ARGYLL
25. (Unk Dau) COMYN m. Sir Andrew De MORAVIA
m. Sir Andrew De MORAVIA father: Sir Walter De MORAVIA mother: (Unk) OLIFARD
26. (Unk Dau) COMYN m. Sir William GALBRATHE
m. Sir William GALBRATHE
27. John COMYN m. Maud
m. Maud
30. Archibald MURE m. Margaret MONTGOMERY
m. Margaret MONTGOMERY father: John MONTGOMERY

5th generation

31. Euphemia De MORHAM m1. Sir John GIFFARD m2. James DOUGLAS
m. Sir John GIFFARD
m. James DOUGLAS father: Sir William DOUGLAS mother: Elizabeth STEWART
32. Isabel RANDOLPH m. Sir Patrick DUNBAR
m. Sir Patrick DUNBAR father: Sir Alexander DUNBAR
33. Sir David HAMILTON m. Janet KEITH
m. Janet KEITH father: Sir William KEITH mother: (Unk dau) MURE
34. Sir John HAMILTON m1. Jane LYDDELL m2. Anna SETON
m. Jane LYDDELL father: Sir James LYDDELL
m. Anna SETON father: Sir William SETON mother: Janet FLEMING
37. William De ROSS, Earl Of Ross m. Mary Of The Isles
m. Mary Of The Isles father: Angus Og Lord Of The Isles mother: Agnes Of Cathan Of Ulster
39. Margery Of Ross m. Malise Earl Of Strathern, Caithness, And Orkney
m. Malise Earl Of Strathern, Caithness, And Orkney father: Malise Earl Of Strathearn mother: Agnes
40. Hugh ROSS m. Margaret De BARCLAY
m. Margaret De BARCLAY
41. Euphemia Of Ross m1. John RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray m2. Robert II STEWART, King Of Scots
m. John RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray father: Thomas RANDOLPH, Earl Of Moray mother: Isabel STEWART
m. Robert II STEWART, King Of Scots father: Walter High Steward Of Scotland mother: Marjorie De BRUCE
44. Margaret De Bonkyl m1. Sir John STEWART m2. Sir David Of Brechin, Lord Of Brechin
m. Sir John STEWART father: Alexander STEWART, High Steward Of Scotland mother: Joanna
m. Sir David Of Brechin, Lord Of Brechin father: Sir William Of Brechin, Lord Of Brechin mother: Elena COMYN
45. John The Red COMYN, Lord Of Badenock m. Joan De VALENCE
m. Joan De VALENCE father: William De VALENCE, Lord Of Valence mother: Joan De MUNCHENSEY
48. Sir Philip MOUBRAY m.
49. Sir John Of Argyll m.
102 Ewen
51. Sir Andrew De MORAVIA m.
52. William GALBRATHE m. Willelma DOUGLAS
m. Willelma DOUGLAS father: Sir William DOUGLAS mother: Constance
53. Isabel COMYN m. Sir Thomas CLARELL, Of Aldwark
m. Sir Thomas CLARELL, Of Aldwark father: Sir William CLARELL Of Aldwark, Lord Of Sutton mother: Agnes WALEIS
54. Robert COMYN m.
55. William MURE m. (Unk) LINDSAY
m. (Unk) LINDSAY