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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" < >
Subject: Re: Berthe, Merovingian Princess
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:54:07 -0500
Kotliar wrote:
>
> Leo van de Pas wrote:
>
> > Sadly, my copy of Stuart's book is on the shelf not to be used. There are
> > too
> > many errors. A more serious source for this subject is "Caroli Magni
> > Progenies" by Siegfried Rosch, published in 1977 by Degener Verlag.
> >
> > On page 52 he records his version of the ancestors of Charlemagne :
> >
> > 1.Charlemagne
> >
> > 2.Pepin the younger
> > 3.Bertrada/Berta the Younger/Berta of Laon
> > 6.Heribert/Caribert, Count of Laon
> > 12.NN
> > 13.Berta the Elder, on 23 June 721 (with her son 6) founded the first
> > convent/monastery at Pruem
> > 26.Hugobert, died 697/698 Seneschall in 693, 694; Pfalzgraf in 697
> > 27.Irmina, died before 710 died as Abbess of Convent Oeren (Trier)
> > Sadly, I don't see any Merovingian links.
>
> I think the argument made is that the Count Haribert of Laon was some how a
> member of the Merovingians. Why this assertion is made, I don't know. For i
> have never seen anything detailing his ancestory.
The traditions of Merovingian descent for this family are not base on
the parentage of Hugobert, but on an alternative parentage for Bertha
and her kin. Chaume argues that Bertha (the elder), Plectrude, and the
other siblings were instead children of one of the Merovingian kings.
This proposal has since largely fallen out of favor.
ta
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