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From: Kay Allen AG < >
Subject: Re: Margaret Stanley m. Torbock or Troutbeck
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1990 05:24:17 -0800


Comment interspersed.

Leo van de Pas wrote:
>
> What I have is :
> Thomas Stanley, 1st Baron Stanley and Joan Goushill
> are the parents of :
> Margaret Stanley
> married
> Sir William Troutbeck, of Dunham
> son of Sir John Troutbeck and Marjery Hulse
> he was born 13 July 1436
> and died in 1464
> they were the parents of (there should be more and the order
> is probably wrong)

The eldest son was Sir William who dsp.
George Morris shows another son Thomas, no son Robert, a dtr. Jane who =
Sir Wm. Butler, and a dtr. Elizabeth who = Sir Alex Houghton.
> 1. Adam Troutbeck
> married Margaret Butler, of Bewsey
> daughter of Sir John Butler, of Bewsey, and Margaret Gerard
> (they had children)

According to _The Troutbeck Family_ by John Brownbill, the mother of
Margaret Troutbeck who married Talbot was not Margaret Butler but Joan
Molyneux the widow of Hamon Mascy of Denwall. It is possible, but I am
not entirely convinced by his arguments.
>
> 2.Joan Troutbeck

This Joan is identified as being identical with the sister of Adam who
married Sir William Butler. She had two marriages.
> married Sir William Griffith, of Penrhyn, Chamberlain of North Wales, son of
> William Fychan, of Penrhyn, and Alice Dalton
> (they had children)
>
> 3.Robert Troutbeck

What is the supporting evidence for the existence of this Robert ?

Kay allen AG
> he may and he may not have married but fathered at least one daughter
> (Mary).
>
> Sources
>
> Burke's Presidential families of the United States of America
> London, 1975
>
> The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
> Edinburgh, 1977
> by Gerald Paget
>
> The second source indicates that Margaret Stanley and William Troutbeck are
> ancestors of Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales.
> Hope this helps?
> Best wishes
> Leo van de Pas

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