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From: G . EDWARD ALLEN< >
Subject: Countess Lucy
Date: 2 Oct 1998 10:32:25 -0700
As Farrer pointed out in the quote in my previous post, much ink has
been spilt on this topic. My file on the Countess Lucy has 60 pages of
material, most of which is two pages copied onto one. Since this is alot
of photocopying and a lot of typing, I will endeavor to send precis of
what was said on this matter in these articles.
REG Kirk start his series of articles, "The Countess Lucy: Singular or
Plural," on p. 60 of The Genealogist 4NS.
First, he gives Dugdale's version as given in his Baronage (on film from
the FHC). Lucy is gran-daughter of Leofric, Earl of Mercia, and of
Godiva, her father being Aelfgar. Dugdale gives her three husbands, Ivo
Taillebois, of Anjou, by whom she had no children; Roger de Roumare, by
whom she had William; and Ranulph Meschin, earl of Chester.
He then goes on with a critique. Lucy is supposedly born no later than
1059, if she is Aelfgar's daughter, as that is his date of death. That
she is Aelfgar's daughter is alleged by the monks of Peterborough in the
Chronicle of Peterborough and by the Crowland Ingulf material which will
be questioned. Her marriage date according to these two sources is
either 1072 or 1073. Peter of Blois states Ivo lived until 1114. If this
is so, then Lucy would have been 55 years old and most probably
incapable of being the mother of William de Roumare and the Earl of
Chester. So two Lucys were created, which were the hypotheses of John
Gough Nichols in Annals and Antiquities of Lacock Abbey and the author
of "Additions to Dugdale's Baronage", *Collectanea Topographica et
Genealogica, vii:130 and viii: 156. Other authors also accepted this
hypothesis. According to Kirk, they rely on Peter of Blois assertion
that Ivo and Lucy had an only daughter. They did not note that Peter of
Blois also states that this daughter died in her father's lifetime,
without issue. Stapleton and Nichols have posited a daughter Beatrice,
wife of Ribaud of Middleham. If this material does not cover this issue,
I will later transmit what was printed in The Genealogist on this
matter.
I will leave on this cliff-hanger. In the next issue, I will cover his
objections.
Kay Allen AG
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