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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" < >
Subject: Re: DOI, NORMANDY
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:19:53 -0500


Olivier Cocheril wrote:
>
> D'après "The Scots Peerage : The Complete Peerage; Burke's Guide to the
> Royal Family, 1973" Alain Fitzflaad (mort en 1114) était le fils de Flaad
> (vivant en 1078 et mort avant 1106), sénéchal de Dol en Bretagne. Il suivit
> le roi Henri I en Angleterre, ainsi que de nombreux chevaliers originaires
> du nord-est de la Bretagne.
> Son grand-père serait peut-être un certain Alain de Dol mais son existence
> est incertaine. Quant à celle de son arrière-grand-père Flaad indiqué par
> Todd Farmerie elle me paraît peu crédible. Pourrait-il indiquer ses sources
> concernant une région, la Bretagne, et une époque, les Xe et XIe siècles, où
> elles sont rares.

The information on the earlier generations comes from an article by
Moriarty in the NEHGR (I don't have the vol., but it was 1962),
pp.21-25, called The Origin of the Stuarts and the Fitz Alans. He
indicates that Round had traced, in his 1901 Studies in Peerage and
Family History, back to the Alan, Dapifer of Dol who was grandfather of
the later Alan, husband of Avalina de Hesdin. In a followup article in
The Genealogist, n.s. 18:1-16, he provided a document in which this Alan
appears on a grant to the nunnery of St. George of Rennes as 'Alanus
filius Flaaldi'. Moriarty then calls attention to a charter from the
abbey of Marmoutier. This document (imprecisely dated to 1032-64)
records a grant by Rhiwallon, Lord of Dol and Combourg. Among those
attesting is a "Fledaldi senescali". We thus have documentation of the
father and predicessor of Alan Fitz Flaald. Moriarty goes on to
speculate that Flaald was a brother, perhaps illegitimate, of Rhiwallon,
but I have reservations about this suggestion.

ta

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