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From: Reedpcgen< >
Subject: Re: from Charlemagne to Arnold (?)
Date: 29 Jul 1998 08:03:13 GMT
I can't vouch for the line once it gets to Arnold, but the earlier part needs a
little correction. My notes are in [brackets]:
17 Isabel Manduit-William Beauchamp m: Abt. 1215
18 William Beauchamp-Maud Debraose m: Abt. 1250
[Sarah, wife of Richard Talbot, was sister of William Beauchamp, Earl of
Warwick, not daughter. She was daughter of William de Beauchamp and Isabel
Mauduit, so this generation (18) is erroneous.]
19 Sarah Beauchamp-Richard Talbot m: Abt. 1275
[Richard Talbot married Sarah after 7 Jan. 1268/9, possibly about 1275. He was
son of Gilbert Talbot and his wife Gwenthlian, daughter and eventual heir in
her issue of Rhys Mechyll. Richard's eldest son, Gilbert, b. 18 Oct. 1276, was
made 1st Lord Talbot.]
20 Gwenllian Talbot-Payne Tuberville m:Abt. 1340
[Gwenllian must have been born by 1280, probably earlier, as her son and heir
Sir Gilbert was acting as an adult in 1322 and his son Gilbert born before
(probably several years before) 1327. Payne was Sheriff of Glamorgan in
1315, and died 12 Edward II (1318/19) leaving his widow as executrix. So their
marriage date should be about 1296, NOT 1340.]
21 Sarah Tuberville-William Gamage m: Abt. 1360
[Sarah was one of four sisters who became coheirs after the death of the issue
of her brothers Gilbert and Richard. She was the only one to have surviving
male issue, which meant she inherited Coyty, etc. I think their general ages
are given in the various inquisitions post mortem taken after her brother
Richard's death, but I don't have them here. But she was definitely married
long before 1360.]
22 Gilbert Gamage-Lettice Seymour m: Abt. 1385
[This Gilbert died in 1382, and married Lettice about 1364, so he was born
about 1340 or so. After his death Lettice married Maurice Basset. They could
not have married in 1385 after Gilbert's death.]
23 William Gamage Mary De Rodburg m: Abt. 1410
[William died in 1419. His son Thomas was born ca. 1408, so he must have
married Mary daughter of Sir Thomas de Rodborough, about 1406 or earlier.]
24 Thomas Gamage-Matilda m: Abt. 1440
[Thomas was b. ca. 1408, so the line is correct down to here.]
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