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From: "Chris Phillips" < >
Subject: Re: Evidence re. the identity of Alan Fitz Roland's wife
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:39:17 +0100
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Will Johnson wrote:
> Leo's great web site
> has Alice de Mandeville marrying John de Lacy (later Constable of Chester)
in
> 1157.

This would agree with your previous statement that Roger's maternal
grandmother was Rohese de Vere (assuming Alice de Mandeville is supposed to
be a daughter of Geoffrey de M by Rohese), but it does seem to be an error
(Leo cites Turton, Plantagenet Ancestry).

Certainly Keats-Rohan [Domesday Descendants, p. 250] shows the wife of John
de Lacy as "Alice daughter of Roger of Warkworth and Adelisa de Vere".
Complete Peerage [vol. 10, Appendix J, p. 116, note d] agrees, citing Rot.
de Dominabus [1185] for the information that Alice/Adelisa had a daughter
married to John, the Constable of Chester.

Chris Phillips




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