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From: William Addams Reitwiesner< >
Subject: Re: Owain Glyndwr Prince of Wales
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 01:56:15 GMT
(Leo van de Pas) wrote:
>Owain Glyndwr/Owen Glendower/Owen Glendour
>son of Gruffyd Fychan, Lord of Glendyfrdwy, and Elen
>born about 1354 in Montgomeryshire
>died in 1416
>
>He studied law at Westminster and became esquire to the
>Earl of Arundel. In 1401 he rebelled against Henry IV,
>proclaimed himself Prince of Wales, established an
>independent Welsh Parliament, and joined the coalition
>with Henry Percy Hotspur who, in 1403, was defeated at
>the battle of Shrewsbury. He then continued to fight for
>Welsh independence until his death.
>
>I cannot find a name for a wife but he had two if not
>three daughters, two names are easy: Alice and Janet.
>The third one, probably Fychan (is that possible ?), made
>an incredible marriage. She married Sir Edmond Mortimer,
>son of Philippa of Clarence, daughter of Lionel, son of
>King Edward III.
>
>The question is : I found an indication for children,
>Lionel Mortimer, who died young, then three unnamed ones
>who, in 1413, with their mother 'died a mysterious death' ,
>and then this infuriating remark 'more children'.
>
>Does anyone know anything about the descendants of Sir Edmund Mortimer and
>Fychan? There is a tradition that descendants moved to Scotland.
"Fychan" means "younger", and wouldn't be used without a name (such as
"Llywelyn Fychan", "Maelgwn Fychan", "Angharad Fychan", etc.).
Owain Glyndwr is mentioned in Bartrum's *Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1400*,
table "Bleddyn ap Cynfyn 5" with his wife Margred, daughter of David
Hanmer. Six sons and six daughters are shown for them, along with an
illegitimate son (Ieuan) for Owain. The sons are shown as:
1. Gruffudd
2. Madog
3. Maredudd
4. Thomas
5. John
6. Dafydd
None of these are shown as having married, or doing anything. Bartrum's
source for these sons is "Rhandiroedd Powys", page 10.
Owain Glyndwr's daughters are shown as:
1. Elizabeth m. Sir John Scudamore (son John at Paget Q117850)
2. Joan m. Henry Grey of Rhuthun (see Cokayne VI:158 note a)
3. Jonet m. Sir John Croft (see Paget, Prince of Wales, Q115721)
4. Ann m. Sir Richard Monington
5. Myfanwy m. Llywelyn ab Adda
6. Gwenllian m. Philip ap Rhys
William Addams Reitwiesner
"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc."
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