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From: J.C.B.Sharp< >
Subject: Re: Richard de Dover
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 20:44:54 GMT


In article < >, "Todd A. Farmerie" ( ) writes:
>Tigers14 wrote:
>>
>> >Todd A. Farmerie" < >
>>
>> >> I have seen it several places including a massive European royal genealogy
>> >> website out of Hull University.
>> >
>> >OK. Did THEY have any source for it (that Richard of Dover was daughter
>> >of Alina of Warenne), or was it just speculation.
>> >
>>
>> I seem to remember their quoting Burke's Peearage, but I am not positive. I
>> just checked, he does quote Burke's Peerage .
>> He says that the mother was a sister of William de Warrenne, but that her name
>> was unknown.
>
>It is known that John had a sister of William as mistress, but that she
>was mother of Richard is, as far as I am aware, simply a guess.

Annales Cestrienses, p 46:

mcc W. de Waren meunch fil Regis occiditur.

A footnote quotes Robert of Gloucester p 561:

Sir Richard fiz le Roi of wan we speke bivore
Gentil man was inou the he were bast ibore
Wor the erles douzter of Warenne is gode mother was
His fader the king Jon.

There is quite a choice for the earl, but who was W. who died in
1200 and what does meunch mean?
.

J.C.B.Sharp
London

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