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From: "Douglas Richardson" < >
Subject: Identity of Gunnor de Gant, wife of Ralph de Secheville
Date: 13 Oct 2005 08:05:43 -0700


Dear Newsgroup ~

I've noticed various online databases state that Gunnor d'Aubeney,
widow of Robert de Gant (died 1191), married (2nd) Nicholas de
Stuteville, of Liddell, Cumberland (died 1218) and (3rd) Ralph de
Secheville.

Complete Peerage, 7 (1929): 674, footnote b (sub Lincoln) confirms the
2nd marriage of Gunnor d'Aubeney to Nicholas de Stuteville, citing as
its source Curia Regis Rolls. i. 288, and W. Brown, Feet of Fines
Yorks, Divers Co., no. 51.

Elswhere, Complete Peerage, 7 (1929): 675, footnote f (sub Lincoln),
states that Gunnor d'Aubeney's son, Gilbert de Gant (died 1242), had a
daughter, Gunnor de Gant, who married Ralph de Socheville (sic). It
cites as its source: Vesp., E xx, f. 70; Linc. Fines, i. 300, and ii.1.

I have Lincolnshire Fines, ii.1, it being Final Concords of the County
of Lincoln, 2 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 17) (1921), edited by C.W. Foster.
The item is actually on pages 1-2, not just page 1. It is a final
concord dated 6 July 1245, between Gunnora de Sechevill and Gilbert de
Gaunt regarding lands in Barthon, Ferriby, Thorp', and Brandon. This
document makes reference to an earlier agreement made by Gunnora's
former husband, Ralph de Sechevill, and Gilbert de Gaunt, father of the
said Gilbert. In a footnote, the editor indicates that the earlier
agreement is dated 3 February 1238-9, and is published in Lincolnshire
Fines, i. 300-301.

There is nothing in the 1245 agreement to indicate the identity of
Gunnora de Sechevill. However, the helpful online A2A Catalogue
provides an abstract of a charter issued by her in which she is styled
"Gunnora de Gaunt, widow of Ralph de Sechevile":

Source: A2A Catalogue
Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers,
Reference: DD/SR/102/88

Grant by Gunnora de Gaunt, widow of Ralph de Sechevile, to the monks of
Rufford' of her lands etc. in Bartona. Date: c 1250 - 1260.

Due to chronology, I suspect Complete Peerage is correct in identifying
the Gunnor de Gant who married Ralph de Secheville as the granddaughter
of the earlier Gunnor d'Aubeney who married Robert de Gant and Nicholas
de Stuteville. The correct name of the younger Gunnor's husband,
however, was Ralph de Secheville, not Socheville as stated in Complete
Peerage. As stated above, Ralph de Secheville was living 3 February
1238/9, but dead before 6 July 1245.

If anyone has further information on any these people, I'd appreciate
if they would post it here on the newsgroup.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net


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