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From: Alan B. Wilson< >
Subject: Re: wife of Fulk Bertrand, C of Provence
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:18:07 -0700
Jim Stephens wrote:
>Sorry, this is a duplicate of a msg I just sent out with no subject line.
>
>ES II:69 says Gilbert, Vicomte de Carlat m. Gerberge, dau of Fulk Bertrand,
>Count of Provence (d.1051) and an unknown dau. of Bertrand, Count of
>Toulouse. The problem is that the only Count of Toulouse named Bertrand
>that I am aware of - the eldest son of Raymond IV of St. Giles - wasn't
>born until 1067, 16 years after the death of his supposed son-in-law ! My
>data, however, could be wrong.
>
>Can someone tell me who the parents and grandparents of the unnamed wife of
>Fulk Bertrand were ?
>
Please forgive the belated response. I've been working on
converting my database from Reunion 4 to Reunion 5. This new
version seems to have a few bugs (along with many advantages).
Here are the parents and grandparents of the unnamed wife
of Fulk Bertrand. This new format may provide more
documentation than anybody wants. Please let me know.
1 NN de Toulouse.[151, See 197:34; 298:32],[233, ii, 187; iii,
763, 805],[409, p. 338 [Evezna\Hildegard? with no parentage]] NN
de Toulouse died aft 23 Apr 1040.[409, + p. 338]
Research: ES[233] ii, 187, apparently mistakenly, gives
father of NN as Count Bertrand of Toulouse.
NN de Toulouse married Fulk Bertrand of Provence Count.
2 William III "Taillefer" of Toulouse Count.[82, 409:08*],[151,
326:32],[233, ii, 187; iii, 763],[74, See 185:2],[104, p. 8]
William III "Taillefer" of Toulouse died in Sep 1037.[233, + ii,
187; iii, 763],[74, See 185:2] Count of Toulouse.[233, iii,
763],[74, See 185:2]
In 1019 William III "Taillefer" of Toulouse married Emma of
Provence.[233, = ii, 187; iii, 763]
3 Emma of Provence.[82, 409:09*],[233, ii, 187; iii, 763],[74,
See 185:2],[104, p. 8],[151, 375:32] Emma of Provence died aft
1063.[233, + ii, 187] Emma of Provence was alive in 1006.[233,
iii, 763]
4 Raimond III Pons of Toulouse & Albi Count.[82, 593:02*],[233,
ii, 68; iii, 763],[151, 326:33],[104, p. 8] Raimond III Pons of
Toulouse & Albi died aft 0961.[233, iii, 763] Raimond III Pons
of Toulouse & Albi was alive in 924.[233, iii, 763] Duke of
Aquitaine, Marquis of Gothie.[151],[233] Count of
Auvergne.[233]
5 Gersende of Narbonne.[233, ii, 68; iii, 763 [no
parentage]],[257],[82, 593:03*],[151, See 326:33]
6 Rotbald III of Provence.[233, ii, 187; iii, 763] Rotbald III
of Provence died in 1014.[233, + ii, 187],[151, + bef 22 Apr
1015]
ca 1005 Rotbald III of Provence married Ermengarde.[233, = ii,
187],[151, = 375:33]
7 Ermengarde.[233, i, 57; ii, 187; iii, 736],[82, 409:19*],[151,
375:33],[409, p. 301] Ermengarde died ca 28 Aug 1057.[233, + i,
57; ii, 187; iii, 736],[409, + p. 301 [? after 1057]],[151, +
375:33]
74. Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral roots of certain American
colonists who came to America before 1700; 7th ed., with
additions and correctiuons by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. ;
assisted by David Faris, Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing
Co., 1992, CSL Sutro CS55 W4 1992.
82. Call, Michel L., Royal Ancestors of Some American Families
; Pedigree Charts., Printed by the author, 1991.
104. Turton, William Harry, The Plantagenet ancestry, Baltimore,
MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1993, CSL Sutro CS71 P7 1928
and 1984.
151. Stuart, Roderick W., Royalty for commoners : the complete
known lineage of John of Gaunt, . . . second edition, Baltimore:
Genealogical Pub. Co., 1992.
233. Schwennicke, Detlev, Europaische Stammtafeln : Stammtafeln
zur Geschichte der europaischen Staaten / begrundet von Wilhelm
Karl Prinz zu Isenburg ; fortgefuhrt von Frank Baron Freytag von
Loringhoven ; neue Folge herausgegeben vonĀ., Marburg:
Stargardt, 1978-<1995 >, UCB Main f CS 616 E8 1978 Bd. 1-16
(1978-1995).
257. GEN-MEDIEVAL: 22 Nov 95. Nat Taylor, "Re: Princes of Orange/Toulouse"
409. Glocker, Winfred, Die Verwandten der Ottonen und ihre
Bedeutung in der Polotik : Studien zur Familienpolitik und zur
Genealogie des sachsischen Kaiserhauses, Koln : Bohlau, 1989,
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Alan B. Wilson
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