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From: John Carmi Parsons < >
Subject: Re: Norman/Angevin queries
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:22:18 -0500 (EST)
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 Michelle.Murphy% wrote:
> Just a couple more small queries on the Normans/Angevins
>
> 1) Who was the wife of William, son of Henry I?
He was betrothed to, but drowned before he could marry, a daughter of the
count of Anjou. The marriage had been delayed because of canonical objections
as William and the count were related within the prohibited degrees of
consanguinity.
> 2) Does anyone have details on the children of Robert of Caen, Earl of
> Gloucester, and on the children of William Earl of Gloucester, his eldest son? I
> know that the earldom went to Hawise/Avisa, daughter of William, who married
> first John (later King John) though the marriage was later dissolved. How did
> the Earldom of Gloucster pass to the de Clare family?
The Clares inherited the Gloucester earldom through one of Isabella's (NOT
Hawise's) sisters. I'd have to dig out notes for details on this one.
> 3) Did Alais, daughter of Louis VII of France and his second wife Constance (of
> Castile?) have descendants by her eventual marriage after she was freed from
> imprisonment by Richard I?
Alais was never, to my knowledge, imprisoned. In fact Richard was only too
happy to get rid of her. Her mother was indeed Constance of Castile.
Alais had one daughter by William II of Ponthieu: Marie, later countess of
Ponthieu in her own right, who to judge from two of William's charters was
probably born late in 1197 or (more likely) in 1198. (Alais and William
married in 1195; later in 1196, according to William's charter, they still
had no children but were hoping for issue; and in 1198 Marie appears as
her father's heiress. Again judging from William's charters, Alais died
sometime between July 1218 and March 1221, but I don't think the exact date is
known.
> Also, did Marguerite (previously married to Henry the Young King of England)
have children by her second marriage?
None that are recorded. Her only child by the Young King, William, was born
prematurely in June 1177 and only lived 3 days; one French chronicle says the
birth was premature ("abortivus fuit" to be precise) and possibly a difficult
delivery on that occasion left Margaret unable to bear further children.
> 4) Who did Philip II's sister by his father's third marriage, marry?
Agnes (d. perhaps as late as 1240) married first in March 1180 Alexios II,
Eastern Emperor (d. Sept. 1183), without issue. She m. second, probably
in the year of her first husband's death, his successor Andronikos I
(overthrown and murdered in Sept 1185), again w/o issue. She m. 3rd, in
1204 or 1205, Theodoros Briennios (the surname is sometimes rendered
"Vranas" and "Branas"), a Greek noble from Adrianople, by whom she had one
daughter, name unknown. This daughter married Narjot/Nargeaud de Toucy,
lord of la Terza in the Levant (d. 1240) and left issue. The male line
died out with Narjot's great-grandson Philippe of la Terza in 1300/01;
there may be descendants in the female line, as the original Narjot and
his Vranas wife had a daughter Margaret, wife of Leonardo da Veroli,
Chancellor of the despot of Morea.
John Parsons
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