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From: Douglas Richardson < >
Subject: Sir John Holand of Northamptonshire/ Beauchamp/Fiennes
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:51:54 -0800


I'm seeking information on a certain Sir John Holand of
Northamptonshire and on his son, presumably also Sir John
Holand. The elder Sir John is mentioned in the Patent Rolls
in 1406, when his daughter, Margaret, married John, son of
ROger de Beauchamp, Knt. (ca. 1362-1406), of Bletsoe, co.
Bedford and Bloxham, co. Oxford, Chamberlain of the
Household to King Edward III. The record does not state if
Sir John Holand was living in 1406, only that Margaret was
his daughter.

Roskell calls this Sir John Holand "a local Northampton
landowner." Yet, a survey of the patent and close rolls of
this period has turned up no particular entries regarding
this man. The only John Holand who conceivably can fit is
John Holand of Thorp Waterville, co. Northampton who
received a commission to arrest and deliver to the sheriff
of Derby a certain Robert de Bounsall of Brunalston in 1393.
According to the Victoria County History of Northampton,
John Holand of Thorpe Waterville was none other than Sir
John Holand, Earl of Huntingdon, afterwards Duke of Exeter.
who was beheaded and attainted in 1400.


Moreover, it appears that Margaret Holand, wife of John
Beauchamp, was sister of that Elizabeth Holand, wife of
Roger Fiennes (ca. 1384-1449) which Elizabeth is styled the
"sister of Sir John Holand of Northamptonshire" in various
accounts, The only Sir John Holand alive during
Elizabeth's adult lifetime was the Sir John who was son and
heir of the earlier Sir John Holand, he being Sir John
Holand, who had the titles Earl of Huntingdon and Duke of
Exeter restored to him sometime after 1417. In 1428, the
younger John appears in Feudal Aids simply as John Holand of
Thorp Waterville, co. Northampton, which indicates that he
resided at Thorp Waterville just as his father had before
him.

That Elizabeth, wife of Roger Fiennes, was a Holand is
confirmed by the appearance of the Holand arms among
surviving Fiennes family armaments. Also a John Holand
appears in conjunction with a property settlement made by
Roger Fiennes when Roger and Elizabeth's daughter, Margaret
Fiennes, married a Lewknor. At the date of this conveyance,
the younger Sir John Holand, then Earl of Huntiongdon, was
still very much alive,

I'd appreciate any comments on this matter. Best always,
Douglas Richardson

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