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From: Reedpcgen< >
Subject: Re: Camville of Clifton Campville, Staffordshire
Date: 27 Apr 1999 05:16:46 GMT


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>(2) Where does Geoffrey de Marmion fit into the Marmion family?
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Not that it's authoritative by any means, but the Wallop Family shows Aubrey
["Albreda"], wife of William de Camvill as daughter of Geoffrey Marmion
(brother of Robert Marmion of Tamworth, who d. 1143), son of Roger Marmion of
Tamworth Castle (d. ca. 1130), son of Robert Marmion, S. de
Fontenay[-le-Marmion, Calvados], Normandy, and of Tamworth, Warwick, and
Scrivelsby, Lincoln, by "Hadeguisa" [Hawise] who in her widowhood was a nun at
Caen in 1101.

CP 8:505-8 shows Geoffrey "of Llanstephan" as son of the said Roger, possibly
by a daughter of Urse d'Abetot, but then shows it is possible Roger (d. 1130)
was son of Robert Marmion (d. c. 1106) by his wife Hawise.

The Robert Marmion who died in 1143-4 married Milicent, who after his death
married Richard de Canville/Camville.

CP 8:508, note h, states, "On chronological grounds she [Aubreye] may not have
been the da. of the Geoffrey Marmion mentioned in the text above, but was
doubtless his descendant."

pcr

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