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From: Reedpcgen< >
Subject: Re: William Neville (Earl of Kent)
Date: 7 May 1999 19:54:21 GMT
>We have a daughter listed for William Neville & J.Fauconberg named
>"Dionice" b.ca.1418 d.1437 m.ca.1392 Thomas Brockett. Need help confirming
>this and obtaining their descendants.
>
This, of course, was the famous heiress Joan Faucomberge, b. 1406, and though
"a fool and idiot from birth" she was allowed inheritance and married to
William Neville, 8th son of Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, by his wife Joan,
daughter of John, Duke of Lancaster. [CP 5:281-6]
William was created Earl of Kent. He died without legitimate male issue in
1462/3. His heirs were his three daughters, (1) Joan, then wife of Sir Edward
Bethum (d. s. p.), (2) Elizabeth, wife of Richard Strangways, and (3) Alice,
wife of John Conyers.
William had illegitimate sons, one of whom was mentioned in the Paston Letters.
Any "Dionice" would not have been legitimate, if daughter of William, and
would not have been by Joan. But as William married Joan before 28 April 1422,
when she was still quite young, and he was not knighted until 1426, I think you
aare looking at a chronologically impossible connection.
It was said that the daughter Joan, who died without issue, as is clear from
the documents that followed their father's death (their mother survived her
daughters, dying aged 84), survived her first husband, Sir Edward Beetham, then
married Nicholas Belliany, without issue, and then Thomas Brockett, of
Hertfordshire, leaving issue [Vis. Yorks.]. There was a claim that a Sir
Thomas Brocket of Brocket Hall married "Dionis, da. of Lord Fauconberge," and
seals which quarter the arms of Faucomberge, Neville, etc. [CP 5:286, note b],
but again, the chronology of this claim is rather too tight.
The Visitation of the North, 1480-1500, lists only the two surviving daughters
who left issue, Alice and Elizabeth.
pcr
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