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Subject: Re: Reynold de Braoise
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 23:24:01 -0500 (EST)
1. REGINALD OF BRAOSE9 (WILLIAM DE BRAOSE8, PHILLIP OF BRAOSE7, WILLIAM DE
BRAOSE6, GILBERT DE BRIONNE5, GODFREY OF BRIONNE AND EU4, RICHARD3 I, DUKE OF
NORMANDY, WILLIAM2 I, LONGSWORD, ROLF1) was born Abt. 1182 in Bramber, SSX,
ENG, and died Abt. 1228 in Bramber, SSX, ENG. He married (1) GRAECIA DE
BRIWERE, daughter of WILLIAM DE BRIWERE. He married (2) GWLADYS DDU OF WALES
1215, daughter of LLYWELYN and TANGWYSTL.
Notes for REGINALD OF BRAOSE:
Lord of Abergaveny. Had his grant confirmed by King Henry III., and he had
livery of the castle and honor of Totness, with the honor of Barnstaple,
having had previous possession of other estates.
Notes for GWLADYS DDU OF WALES:
"Dark Eyed"
Child of REGINALD and GRAECIA is:
2.i.WILLIAM OF BRAOSE10, b. Abt. 1204, Bramber, SUS, ENG; d. 2-May-1230.
Generation No. 2
2. WILLIAM OF BRAOSE10 (REGINALD OF BRAOSE9, WILLIAM DE BRAOSE8, PHILLIP OF
BRAOSE7, WILLIAM DE BRAOSE6, GILBERT DE BRIONNE5, GODFREY OF BRIONNE AND EU4,
RICHARD3 I, DUKE OF NORMANDY, WILLIAM2 I, LONGSWORD, ROLF1) was born Abt.
1204 in Bramber, SUS,
ENG, and died 2-May-1230. He married EVE MARSHALL, daughter of WILLIAM
MARSHALL and ISABEL.
Notes for WILLIAM OF BRAOSE:
William de Braose fell victim to the jealousy of Llewellyn, Prince of Wales,
who
suspecting an intimacy between him and the princess, his wife, King Henry's
sister, invited him to an Easter feast, and treacherously cast him in prison
at the conclusion of the banquet. He was soon afterwards put to death with
the unfortunate princess.
From The Genealogist article by Wm. Addams Reitwiesner
He was discovered in Joan's chambers, accused of being her lover, and
promptly and
publicly hanged. While the story that William and Joan were lovers has been
generally accepted, the Annals of Margam (in T. Gale, ed , Historiae
Britannicae et Anglicanae Scriptores XX (Oxford, 1687), 2-18, [anno] MCCXXX)
implies that the "intimacy" was devised by Llywelyn to avenge himself on
William for political injuries inflicted not only by William but by the
entire Braose family; the execution was hailed by the Welsh as a vindication
of a blood-feud against the Braoses dating from at least 1176. Indeed,
shortly after theexecution Llywelyn wrote to WiUiam's widow Eva and to
William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Eva's brother, stating, in effect, that so
far as he was concerned, the intended marriage between Llywelyn's son Dafydd
and Eva's daughter Isabella could go forward as planned, and that he could
not have prevented the Welsh magnates from taking their vengeance. See J.
Goronwy
Edwards, Calendar of Ancient Correspondence concerning Wales (Board of Celtic
Studies of the University of Wales, History and Law Series, 2)(Cardiff,
1935), pp 51-52, nos. XI.56a, 56b. The marriage in fact took place three
months later.
Children of WILLIAM and EVE MARSHALL are:
3.i.MAUD OF BRAOSE11, b. Abt. 1226; d. Abt. 23-Mar-1300/01.
4.ii.ELEANOR DE BRAOSE, d. 1251.
iii.ISABEL DE BRAOSE, b. Abt. 1215; d. Bef. 1248; m. DAFYDD AP LLYWELYN,
Abt. 10-Aug-1230.
Notes for ISABEL DE BRAOSE:
NCP 6 462-63 note (n) states that Isabella married secondly Piers FitzHerbert
(see AR, line 262), but this seems to be not only false but impossible. See
Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., "Three Generations from Henry fitz Roger", National
Genealogical Society Quarterly 59-254-62 (1971) at 256, 60:25-35 (1972) at
26, though his statement that Piers was alive in 1248 is in error; Piers died
between 19 May and 6 June 1235, NCP 5-465 note (d) and could not have married
the widow of Dafydd, who died in 1246. Vernon M. Norr, Some Early English
Pedigrees (Arlington, Va., 1968), p. 35, attempts to salvage this marriage by
showing Piers as first husband and Dafydd as second, but this is equally
impossible, since Isabella married Dafydd in
1230 and Piers died in 1235.
Notes for DAFYDD AP LLYWELYN:
Prince David, who on the demise of his father, 1240, usurped the crown of
North
Wales, eldest and only legitimate son (by Joan, his 3rd consort, natural
daughter of
John, King of England) of Llewellyn, the Great King of North Wales. David ap
Llewellyn d.s.p.
5.iv.EVE OF BRAOSE, b. Abt. 1220; d. Jul-1255.
Always optimistic--Dave
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