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From: "Robert O'Connor" < >
Subject: Re: Stafford
Date: 17 Oct 1999 00:34:01 GMT
Here is what I have on the two lines of Stafford that you mention, both
descended from Hervey de Bagot:
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MILLICENT de STAFFORD (3), M HERVEY de BAGOT, of Bramshall, Staffs. (He
assumed the surname of 'de Stafford' upon being seised of his wife's
inheritance & Died before 25 Aug. 1214). She was heir to her brother,
Robert. Died by Jan. 1224/5. She had issue:CP XII:1, p 170 VCH Staffs
VII, pp 13-4
2.WILLIAM (1), of Sandon & Bramshall, Staffs., M Alice (Born c. 1225), d.
of Warine de Vernon, Lord of Shipbrook, & his wife Mary, d. of Ralph de
Andeville (See VERNON). He had issue:VCH Staffs VII, pp 13-4
1a.WILLIAM, of Sandon & Bramshall, Staffs., M -- . He had issue:
1b.WILLIAM (Sir), Kt., M.P., of Sandon, Amblecote & Bramshall, Staffs.,
M.P. for Staffs., 1290 & 1298. M Isabella. He had issue:VCH Staffs VII,
pp 13-4
1c.JOHN (Sir), Kt., M.P., of Amblecote & Bramshall, Staffs., M 1st
Elizabeth (Died 1337), d. of Sir Philip de Somerville, Kt., M.P., of
Whichnor, Staffs. & Cossington, Leic. & his wife Margaret, d. of Sir Thomas
de Pype, Kt. M 2nd his cousin Margaret, 4th d. of Ralph, 1st Earl of
Stafford, & his 1st wife Katherine, d. of Sir John Hastang, Kt., of
Chebsey, Staffs. (See BELOW). Died before August 1373. He had issue by
his 1st wife:HoP 1386-1421 IV, p 437 WSAS 1917/8, pp 9-10, 45 & 83
1d.Maud, Born c. 1328. M 1st Edmund Vernon. M 2nd c 1357 her cousin
Richard, 1st Baron Stafford, of Clifton, brother of Ralph, 1st Earl of
Stafford (See Below). Died 1400. s.p.WSAS 1917/8, p 83
Sir John Stafford, Kt., M.P. (d 1373) had further issue by his 2nd wife:
2d.HUMPHREY (Sir), Kt., M.P., J.P., of Southwick, in North Bradley, Wilts.
& Hooke, Dorset., Born c. 1340. M 1st c. 1365 Alice (Born c. 1345), d. of
Sir John Greville, Kt., of Southwick, Wilts. M 2nd between June 1386 &
Jan. 1388 Elizabeth (Died 17 Oct. 1413), d. of Sir William d'Aumarle, Kt.,
M.P., of Woodbury, Devon. Knighted by 1366. J.P. for Wilts., 26 May 1380
to Dec. 1382 & Oct. 1397 to May 1401. J.P. for Dorset, 15 July 1389 till
death. J.P. for Somerset, 16 May 1401 till death. On many royal
commissions between 1380 & 1410. Sheriff of Staffs., 1 Nov. 1383 to 11
Nov. 1384 & 1 Dec. 1388 to 15 Nov. 1389. Sheriff of Somerset & Dorset, 18
Nov. 1386 to 1387, 21 Oct. 1391 to 18 Oct. 1392, 22 Nov. to 19 Dec. 1405 &
29 Nov. 1410 to 10 Dec. 1411. M.P. for Warw., 1383; for Wilts., 1384; for
Dorset, 1388, 1390, 1391 & 1393; for Somerset, 1394 & for Dorset, 1395,
1397, 1399, 1401, 1404, 1406, 1407 & 1410. Will dated 5 April 1413. Died
31 Oct. 1413. Will Proved at Lambeth, 29 Nov. 1413. He had issue by his
1st wife: HoP 1386-1421 IV, pp 437-9 VCH Staffs VII, pp 13-4 VCH Worc III,
p 217 VCH Warw V, p 26 Burke's EP, p 502
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MILLICENT de STAFFORD (3), M HERVEY de BAGOT, of Bramshall, Staffs. (He
assumed the surname of 'de Stafford' upon being seised of his wife's
inheritance & Died before 25 Aug. 1214). She was heir to her brother,
Robert. Died by Jan. 1224/5. She had issue:CP XII:1, p 170 VCH Staffs
VII, pp 13-4
HERVEY de STAFFORD (2), M in or before 1214 Pernel, d. of William de
Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby, & his wife Sibyl, d. of William de Braose (See
FERRERS). On 4 Nov. 1217 he was to have his lands, as having come into the
King's faith & service. Summoned to join the King at Montgomery, 3 Sept.
1228. In Sept. 1230 he was in the King's service overseas. In July 1234
he was appointed with others to conduct David, son of Llewellyn of Wales,
to the King. Died before 12 May 1237. Bur. at Stone. He had issue: CP
XII:1, p 171
1.Hervey, M Mabel (She M 2nd Robert de Lisle See LISLE), d. of Sir
Robert de Mucesgros, Kt., of Charleton, Somerset (See MALET). Died before
7 Oct. 1241. s.p.CP XII:1, p 171
2.ROBERT, of whom we presently.
ROBERT de STAFFORD (2), M 1st Alice, d. & co-heir of Thomas Corbet, d 1274,
Lord of Caus, Salop, & his wife Isabel, d. of Roger de Vautort, of
Harberton, Devon (See CORBET). M 2nd Joan. On 24 Oct. 1241 he had done
homage for his brother's lands. On 14 March 1257/8 & 1 Aug. 1260 he was
summoned to serve in Wales; & on 27 March 1260 to attend in London. Died
before 4 June 1261. He had issue:CP III, p 417 & XII:1, pp 171-2 Sanders,
p 29
1.NICHOLAS, of whom we presently.
2.Edmund.
NICHOLAS de STAFFORD (2), M -- , d. of Geoffrey de Langley. In 1272 he
had not yet been knighted, but was in possession of his lands. He served
repeatedly in Wales from 1277 to 1287. In 1279 he was sued by his brother
Edmund. Died c. 1 Aug. 1287 at the siege of Droslan Castle, Wales. Bur.
at Stone. He had issue: CP XII:1, p 172
EDMUND, 1st BARON STAFFORD (2)., Born 15 July 1273. M before 1298
Margaret (She M 2nd Sir Thomas de Pype, Kt., of Pype & Died 17 March
1336/7. Bur. at Tysoe, Warw.), d. of Ralph, 1st Baron Basset, of Drayton,
& his wife Hawise (See BASSET). On 20 Aug. 1294 he had done homage & was
to have his lands. On 4 July 1297 he was about to go abroad with the King.
Summoned to serve against the Scots, 1298, 1299, 1301, 1302 & 1308.
Summoned to Parliament as a Baron from 6 Feb. 1298/9 to 26 Aug. 1307. He
joined in the Barons letter to the Pope, 1300. He attended the coronation
of Edward II, 18 Jan. 1307/8. Died before 12 Aug. 1308. He had issue:CP
XII:1, p 173 Weis, p 60 MCS II, p 175 WSAS 1917/8, p 83
1.RALPH, of whom we presently.
2.Richard, 1st Baron Stafford, of Clifton., Born c. 1305. M 1st 1337
Isabel, d. of Sir Richard de Vernon, of Harlaston & Haddon, & his wife
Maud, d. of William, 2nd Baron Camville, of Clifton Camville, Staffs. (See
VERNON). M 2nd Maud (Died 1400, s.p.), d. of Sir John Stafford, Kt., M.P.,
of Bramshall, Staffs. & his 1st wife Elizabeth, d. of Sir Philip de
Somerville, Kt., M.P., of Wichnor, Staffs. (See Above). He had issue by
his 1st wife: WSAS 1917/8 pp 44 & 82-3
1a.Richard (Sir), Kt., Knighted by 1362. M by 1365 Alice, d. of Sir John
Blount, Kt. d.s.p.
2a.Edmund, Lord Chancellor of England.
3a.Catherine, Born before 1338.
4a.Maud, M Sir Thomas de Arderne, Kt., of Elford.
3.William.
4.Humphrey.
RALPH, 1st EARL of STAFFORD, K.G., (2). Born 24 Sept. 1301. M 1st c.
1326/7 Katherine, d. of Sir John Hastang, Kt., of Leamington Warw. &
Chebsey, Staffs., & his wife Eve (See HASTANG). M 2nd before 6 July 1336
Margaret (Born c. 1325 & Died 16 Sept. 1348), d. of Hugh de Audley, 1st
Earl of Gloucester, & his wife Margaret, d. of Gilbert de Clare, 3rd Earl
of Gloucester (See AUDLEY). On 6 Dec. 1323 he had done homage & was to
have his father's lands. On 6 April 1327 he was summoned to serve against
the Scots & in 1332 sailed with Edward de Baliol to invade Scotland.
Summoned to Parliament, from 29 Nov. 1336 to 25 Nov. 1350. On 29 Nov. 1339
he returned from France with the King & on 23 June 1340 was present at the
Battle of Sluys. By 10 Feb. 1340/1 he was Steward of the Royal Household.
Appointed Seneschal of Aquitaine or Gascony, 23 Feb. 1344/5. During 1346
he successfully defended Alguillon against Prince John of France, & in Aug.
he fought in the King's Division at the Battle of Crecy. He was one of the
founder Knights of the Garter, 23 April 1348. Created Earl of Stafford, 5
March 1350/1. In Oct 1355 he was one of the leaders of the King's new
expedition to France. On 24 Aug. 1360 he was appointed, with others, to
treat for peace with France. Died 31 Aug. 1372. He had issue by his 1st
wife: CP XII:1, pp 174-7 Weis, p 60 Faris, pp 6 & 242 MCS II, p 175
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Robert O'Connor
Christchurch
New Zealand
Benjamin Hertzel < > wrote in article
< >...
I have a John Stafford marrying Margaret Stafford (d. 1361). They were
the parents of Ralph Stafford (who married Maud Hastings). Were John and
Margaret related? I show Margaret's parents as Ralph Stafford and
Margaret de Audeley, but nothing on John.
Thank you.
Benjamin
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