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From: Stewart Baldwin< >
Subject: Re: Brian Boruma's maternal relatives
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 02:57:39 GMT


(Luke Stevens) wrote:

>I've been sitting on this information for some time now with no further
>progress, so I figure it's time to post what I have, an update to the
>group on certain genealogical gleanings from B.IV.2 fo. 52 (a 17th
>century manuscript in the Royal Irish Academy, discussed some time ago),
>including two preliminary results of particular interest to those
>descended from Eve of Leinster:

>1. Brian Boruma's maternal grandmother and her ancestry.
>2. that the mother of Conchobar, King of Connaught, d. 973, was Cres,
> maternal aunt of Brian Boruma.

>With a great deal of help from Stewart Baldwin I was able to read the
>manuscript and extract the information into the following table. Males
>are shown in capitals and females in lowercase, and the names are as
>they appear in the MS. As always, view with a fixed width font.

> CIOCHARAN ANGUILE MAONACH
> | | |
> Cianog = CRECHAN MURCHADH
> _____|_____ |
> | | |
> MAOLMITHICH Osnadh = URCHADH
> _________________|__________________________
> | | | | |
> DONNCHADH CENDFAOLADH Be Binn Caoinech Cres
> ____________________|____ = COSCCRACH [= TADG]
> | | | |
> BRIAN [Boruma] CONCHOBHAR LOCHLANN CONCHOBHAR, etc.

>As I said, this is only preliminary. Before it can be accepted, an
>expert will need to do a complete translation, clarifying some
>ambiguities I encountered on the other children of Be Binn & Cres, and
>estimate the date of composition of the poem, which ought to be closer
>to the 11th century than the 17th if it is authentic.

>Luke Stevens

As a supplement to the above, here is some data on the paternal
relatives of Be Binn (or Be Bind) which I recently dug up. Sources
are The Book of Ballymote [BB], p. 90 (2nd and third columns), of
which the original manuscript is available on FHL microfilm number
101014 (generally of poor quality due to overexposure during filming,
but readable in the part relevant here), and the Annals of Ulster
[AU], Inisfallen [AI], and the Four Masters [AFM]. [Accents omitted,
use fixed width font, other usual comments, etc.]

Note: Iarthair (West) Connacht and Ui Briuin Seola might just be two
different names for the same kingdom, but they are given here as they
appear in the records.

Murchad mac Maenaig
king of Iarthair Connacht
d. 896 [AI]
_______________|_________________________________
| | |
Uroman (Auroman) Cleirchen mac Aurchad (Urchad/Erchad) mac
mac Murchada Murchada, d. 912 [AU] Murchada, d. 945 [AU, AI]
| king of Ui Briuin king of Iarthair Connacht
| Seola [AU], Ui Briuin [AI]
| ___________________________|_____
| | | |
six sons [BB] Donnchad mac Aurchada Be Bind see above
| d. 961 [AU], king of | for others
| Ui Briuin Seola Brian
V [First name given in Boruma
later kings of AFM, but not in AU]
Ui Briuin Seola/
Iarthair Connacht

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Stewart Baldwin

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