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From: SETTIPANI< >
Subject: Re: Egbert of Wessex and the Saxon (Carolingian) Egbert
Date: 8 Dec 1998 09:44:49 -0800


Christian Settipani wrote :
>>Hadwig of Herford, granddaughter of Ecbert is attested as the cousin of
>>Charles le Chauve, grandson of Charlemagne, at degree 3:4. That is to
>>say : 1) that a grand-parent of Hadwig is the brother or sister of
>>great-grandparent of Charles II, and 2) that there is no more close
>>relationship between them.

DOn Stone Wrote :
>The great-grandparent of Charles II le Chauve could be King Pepin, but
>there appear to be too few generations between Hadwig of Herford and
>Pepin's brother or sister.

I have never said thar Pepin is the grandfather concerned. In fact, the
theorie is that of W. Metz. Hadwig of Herford (858-887) is born, ca 810.
Her mother was Ida, born ca 785/790, daughter of duke Ecbert of Saxe,
born ca 760. Ecbert could be the brother of N, noble Saxon, father of
Heilwig, born ca 775, wife of Welf, mother of Iudith, born ca 800, wife
of Louis le Pieux, mother of Charles II, born in 823. There is no
problem. Ecbert have another granddaughter, daughter of Cobbo, named
Heilwig, and Gisela, sister of Charles II was grandmother of an Hadwig,
so one can demonstrate that both the names Heilwig and Hadwig are in
Ecbert's family and in Welf's family.

CS

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