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From: John Carmi Parsons < >
Subject: Re: Descendants of King Stephen
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:53:05 -0500 (EST)


"Eustache de Champagne" was not a child of King Stephen, legitimate or
otherwise. She is known to us only as a kinswoman of King Henry II, and
has generally been assumed to have been a descendant of one of the OOW
children of Henry I. If that is correct, the theory that she belonged to
the Perche-Gouet family may perhaps be the likeliest. But this Eustache
was NOT King Stephen's daughter nor the daughter of his son Eustace. Nor
to my knowledge is there any reason or justification for designating her
"of Champagne."

John Parsons

On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, ED MANN wrote:

> Michelle.Murphy% wrote:
> >
> > Given that King Stephen disinherited his own son to pass the
> > succession on to Henry of Anjou, the Empress Matilda's son, what was
> > the subsequent history of Stephen's children? I know that his eldest
> > son, Baldwin, died young, and that his next son Eustace married
> > Constance, the younger sister of King Louis VII of France. I assume
> > they had no issue? What happened to Constance after Eustace's death?
> >
> > Did Stephen have any descendants through his other children (Mary,
> > William or any others)?
>
> Among others:
>
> Direct Descendants of Stephen of England
>
> 1 King Stephen of Englandaka: Stephen de Bloisb: Abt. 1095d: 25
> Oct 1154ref #: 169-25
> +Mathilda de Boulogneb: Abt. 1105d: 3 Jul 1151ref #: 158-24
> 2 Count Eustace IV de Boulogneb: Abt. 1129d: 10 Aug 1153ref #:
> 169A-26
> 3 [1] Eustachie de Champagneref #: 169A-27
> *2nd Husband of [1] Eustachie de Champagne:
> +Anselme Candavaine de St. Pold: 1164ref #: (109-27)
> 4 Beatrice de St. Polaka: Beatrice Candavaine de St. Polb: Abt.
> 1160d: Aft. 1204ref #: 169A-28
> +Count Jean I de Ponthieuaka: John I de Ponthieub: Abt. 1140d: 30
> Jun 1191ref #: 109-27
> 5 William III Talvas de Ponthieub: 1179d: 4 Oct 1221ref #:
> 109-28
> +Alix de Franceb: Abt. 1170d: Aft. 18 Jul 1218ref #: S243-27
> 6 Comtesse Marie de Ponthieuaka: Jeanne de Ponthieub: 17 Apr 1199
> d: Sep 1250ref #: 109-29
> +Comte Simon II de Dammartinaka: Comte de Aumaleb: 1180d: 1239
> ref #: 144-27
> 7 Joan de Dammartinaka: Joan de Dammartinb: Abt. 1214d: 16 Mar
> 1278/79ref #: 109-30
> +King Fernando III de Len-Castileaka: "Fernando the Saint"b: 1191
> d: 30 May 1252ref #: 110-29
> 8 Princess Alianore de Castileb: 1240d: 28 Nov 1290ref #: 110-30
> +King Edward I of Englandaka: "Longshanks"b: 17 Jun 1239d: 1307
> ref #: BRF:81
> 9 King Edward II of Englandb: 25 Apr 1284d: 21 Sep 1327ref #:
> F228:13
>
> --
> FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
>
> Regards, Ed Mann mailto:
>
> References:
> = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
> AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
> the Princess of Wales_, [page].
> AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
> [Pres. # : page].
> BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
> BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
> BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
> BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
> EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
> EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
> [page].
> EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
> [page].
> F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
> NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
> = Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
> [page].
> S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
> W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
> WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
> WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]
>
>
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