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From: Stewart Baldwin< >
Subject: Llywelyn AT - Part 5 of 9
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:18:23 GMT


Note: This is Part 5 of 9 parts.
Some of this may be unintelligible if you do not have all parts.

Stewart Baldwin

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Generation 15

16384-16387. Unknown

16388. Rhodri Molwynog ab Idwal Iwrch, d. ca. 754 [AC] [HG.1: "Rotri
map Iutguaul"]

16389-17535. Unknown.

17536. Feln mac Murchada, king of Laigin (ancestor of the U Felin
branch of U Dnlainge), d. 738 [AU] [R.117c=BB.138a (Rw.13, CGH.13);
R.117d=BB.138a (Rw.18, CGH.14); LL337f (CGH.423)]

17537-17663. Unknown.

17664. Toirrdelbach, ancestor of U Toirrdelbaig, a branch of the sept
of In Dis Tuaiscirt (known as Dl Cais from the tenth century on)
[R.152b=LL.322e {Rw.1259, CGH.236); R.152b=LL.322f (Rw.1272, CGH.237);
R.154a=LL.336d=Lec.225Rb (Rw.1359, CGH.250)] [Note: The ancestry of
the main branch of the Dl Cais can be accepted without much
hesitation back to this individual, after whom the branch was named.
Prior to that, the primary sources given in CGH disagree about the
name of Toirrdelbach's father (Aithirne in R.152b and LL.322e,
Caidlne in R.154a and LL336d, Cathal in Lec.225Rb), and the problems
have apparently not been adequately studied. Corrain (in DCCD) and
Kelley (in EL) give different pedigrees for Toirrdelbach, and neither
supplies a reason for choosing the version that they give. The issue
is further complicated by the fact that the early part of the Dl Cais
pedigree is known to have been fabricated after the previously
insiginificant Dl Cais (formerly In Dis Tuaiscirt) attined
importance in the tenth century, and they were falsely made into
relatives of the Eoganachta. It may well be that reasonable proof
could be obtained for a handful of earlier generations, but that would
require studies which I have neither seen nor done.]

17665-17727. Unknown.

17728. Flann Rodba mac Amalgada (of U Briin Sela) [BB.90b]

17729-17919. Unknown.

17920. Murchad mac Brain Muit (of U Dnlainge), king of Laigin, d.
727 [AU] [R.117d=BB.138a (Rw.18, CGH.14); LL.337f (CGH.433), WUD]
(also #35072)

17921. Conchenn ingen Cellaig Cualain (of U Mil), d. 743 [AU] [WUD]

17922-25159. Unknown or duplicated.

25160. Tewdos ap Rhain [HG.2: "Teudos map Regin"]

25161-32767. Unknown or duplicated.

Generation 16

32768-32776.Unknown.

32776. Idwal Iwrch ap Cadwaladr Fendigaid [HG.1: "Iutguaul map
Catgualart"]

32777-35071. Unknown.

35072. Murchad mac Brain Muit (of U Dnlainge), king of Laigin (same
as #17920)

35073. Unknown [It is unknown whether or not she was the same person
as #17921.]

35074-35455. Unknown.

35456. Amalgaid mac Cind Felad (of U Briin Sela) [BB.90b]

35457-35839. Unknown.

35840. Bran Mut mac Conaill (of U Dnlainge), king of Laigin, d. 693
[AU] [R.117d=BB.138a (Rw.18, CGH.14); LL.337f (CGH.423); WUD]

35841. Almaith ingen Blathmaic (of the Cenl Loairn branch of the Dl
Riata) [WUD]

35842. Cellach Cualann mac Gerthide (of U Mil), king of Laigin, d.
715 [AU] [R.125a=Lec.95Rc (Rw.355, CGH.76); WUD]

35843. Mugain ingen Falbe (of U Bairrche) [WUD]

35844-50319. Unknown or duplicated.

50320. Rhain ap Cadwgon Trydelig [HG.2: "Regin map Catgocaun"; ED]

50321-65535. Unknown or duplicated.

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