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Subject: Re: Eleanor de Furnival, wife of Richard de Brewes
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:38:19 EDT


Thursday, 16 June, 2005


Dear Brice,

Thanks for the details on the de la Pole daughter.

Following is the descent from Eustace II of Boulogne and Ida of
Lower Lorraine to Eleanor de Furnival, via de Lucy, and Fitz Walter
and de Luvetot.

Cheers,

John *



1 Eustace II of Boulogne
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Death: 1093
Occ: Count of Boulogne -1093
Father: Eustace I of Boulogne (-1047)
Mother: Matilda of Louvain

Count of Boulogne
fought at Battle of Hastings (see CP XII Appendix L, pp. 47-48)[1]

married 1stly (as 2nd husband) Goda of England[2],
2ndly Ida of Lower Lorraine[3]

cf. ES I Band I.2 Tafel 202 (Lorraine)[3]

Spouse: Ida of Lower Lorraine [2nd wife]
Death: 13 Aug 1113[3]
Father: Godfrey 'the Bearded' of Lorraine (-1069)
Mother: Uda (-<1054)
Marr: Dec 1057, Cambrai[4]

Children: Eustace III, count of Boulogne (->1125)
Godfrey de Bouillon, 'King' of Jerusalem(-1100)
Baldwin I, King of Jerusalem(-1118)
Goisfred (->1086)


1.1 Goisfred de Boulogne
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Death: aft 1086[5],[6]

of Carshalton, co. Surrey

'Goisfrid filius Eustachii Comitis', held the manor of Carshalton at
the time of Domesday Book, 1086 [DP 229[6] ; Wagner, Pedigree and
Progress;[5] see also Todd A. Farmerie, 'William Fiennes, 'Sire de
Fiennes et de Tingry'[7]]

' Geoffrey son of count Eustace ', received Aulton, Surrey as
the maritagium of his wife:
' Geoffrey himself holds Aulton. Five freemen (held it) of King
Edward, and they could take what lord they pleased. Of these one held
2 hides and four 6 hides apiece. There were five manors. Now it is
thrown into one manor. It was then assessed for 27 hides, now for 3½
hides. The land is for 10 ploughs. In demesne there is one; and
(there are) 9 villeins and 9 cottars with 5 ploughs. There is a
church; and 7 slaves; and 12 acres of meadow. The men of the county
and of the hundred say that they have never seen the writ or the
livery officer who on the kings behalf had given Geoffrey possession
of the manor. In the time of king Edward it was worth 20 pounds; when
he took possession of it, 100 shillings, now ten pounds. Of these
hides Wesman holds 6 hides of Geoffrey son of count Eustace. Geoffrey
de Mandeville gave him this land with his daughter [as a dowery]. In
demesne there is one plough; and (there are) 3 villens and one cottar
with three ploughs; and a mill worth 35 shillings; and 3 slaves; and
10 acres of meadow. Wood worth 2 hogs. The land is for two ploughs.
In the time of king Edward it was worth 4 pounds, and afterwards 40s,
and now 110 shillings. Of the same hides a certain smith of the
King’s has half a hide, which in the time of king Edward he received
with his wife, but he has never done any service for it.' [Domesday
Book, for Carshalton[8]]

frequently referred to in error as 'Geoffrey' de Boulogne [the name
'Godfrey' having earlier been erroneously assigned to his famous
brother, 'Godfrey' of Bouillon][7]

cf. Genealogics # I00305429 [cites ES III:621][9]

Spouse: Beatrice de Mandeville
Father: Geoffrey de Mandeville, of Great Waltham, Essex (-<1100)
Mother: Athelaise
Marr: bef 1086[6]

Children: William (-ca1130)


1.1.1 William de Boulogne
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Death: ca 1130[10]

of Carshalton, co. Surrey[5]

cf. Genealogics #I00305427 [cites ES III:621][9]

Children: Pharamus de Boulogne(->1153)
Rohese, m. Richard de Lucy


1.1.1.1 Rohese de Boulogne
----------------------------------------

identification by Doug Richardson, based on the following charter in
which her son Godfrey, bishop of Winchester identifies his uncle
[brother of his mother] as Pharamus de Boulogne [Pharamuso de Bolonia
avunculo nostro]:
"545. Merton priory.
Inspeximus and confirmation for the canons of Merton of a charter of
bishop Godfrey of Winchester which confirms the grant to them of the
church of Carshalton, and its confirmation by his predecessor,
bishop Richard. The canons may convert the fruits and obventions in
proprios usus, making provision for a perpetual vicar with a vicarage
worth six marks. [Feb. 1198 X Dec. 1204]

Hubertus dei gratia Cantuariensis archiepiscopus totius Anglie primas
omnibus sancte matris ecclesie filiis ad quos presens scriptum
pervenerit eternam in domino salutem. Ad universitatis vestre
notitiam volumus pervenire nos cartam venerabilis fratris nostri
Godefridi Wyntoniensis episcopi diligentius inspexisse, per quam
dilectis filiis nostris canonicis ecclesie beate Marie de Merton'
ecclesiam de Aultona confirmavit in hec verba. Omnibus Christi
fidelibus ad quos presens scriptum pervenerit Godefridus dei gratia
Wyntoniensis episcopus eternam in domino salutem. Considerantes
religionis fervorum domus Mertonie et bonam conversationem
dilectorum canonicorum ibidem deo servientium suavissime redolentem,
eis in iustis petitionibus suis deesse nolumus nec debemus. Inde est
quod nos, inspectis instrumentis predictorum canonicorum super
ecclesia de Aultona a nobili viro Pharamuso de Bolonia avunculo
nostro eis donate et a predecessore nostro Ricardo bone memorie
quondam Wyntoniensi episcopo confirmata, eandem donationem et
confirmationem iuxta quod in prefatis instrumentis continetur ratam
habemus et presenti carta nostra confirmamus, statuentes ut predicti
canonici omnes fructus et obventiones ex prefata ecclesia de Aulton'
provenientes in proprios usus licite possint convertere. Volumus
etiam nichilominus quod ad presentationem eorum prepetuus vicarius
per nos et successores nostros Wyntonienses episcopos in ea
instituatur, cui constituimus vicariam ad valentiam sex marcarum,
qui in ea ministrabit ipsamque ecclesiam de oneribus episcopalibus
exonerabit. Ut igitur quod a predicto episcopo prefatis canonicis
pia consideratione factum est firmum et perpetuum robur optineat,
supramemoratam confirmationem ipsius rationabiliter factam ratam
habemus et tam presenti scripto quam sigilli nostri testimonio
confirmamus.
Hiis testibus: magistro Ricardo cancellario nostro, Rannulfo
thesaurario Saresberiensis ecclesie, magistro Simone de Scalis,
magistro Godefrido de Insula, et aliis, etc." [Cheney, 201-202[11]]

Spouse: Richard de Lucy, of Diss; Justiciar of England
Death: 1178, Lesness, Kent (d. a monk)[12]
Father: NN de Lucy
Mother: Avelina

Children: Avelina de Lucy, m. Gilbert de Montfichet
Maud
Geoffrey de Lucy [father of Rohese de Lucy] (-<1178)
Alice de Lucy, m. Odinel d'Umfrevilleee
Godfrey de Lucy, bishop of Winchester(-1204)


1.1.1.1.1 Maud de Lucy
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Occ: Lady of Diss

received Diss, Norfolk as her maritagium[1]

[shown as 2nd wife[13]in error,[1]]

Spouse: Walter fitz Robert, of Dunmow, Essex
Death: 1198[1]
Father: Robert fitz Richard de Clare (-1134)
Mother: Maud de St. Liz (-1140)

Children: Robert fitz Walter [ the Magna Carta surety ] (-1235)
Maud (ca1161->1196)
Alice, m. Gilbert de Peche
Simon fitz Walter, of Daventry


1.1.1.1.1.1 Maud fitz Walter
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Birth: ca 1161[1]
Death: aft 1196

' ..Maud, da. of Walter fitz Robert.' [CP V:580, note (g) re: wife
of William de Luvetot[1]]

Spouse: William de Luvetot, of Sheffield, Yorks. and Worksop, Notts.
Death: bef 1182[1]
Father: Richard de Luvetot (-1171)
Mother: Cecily de Brito

Children: Maud (>1179->1247)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Maud de Luvetot
----------------------------------------
Birth: aft 12 Mar 1179[1]
Death: aft 23 Jun 1247[1]

heiress of Sheffield, co. York and Worksop, co. Notts

'Matildis de Lovetot, filia et haeres Willielmi de Lovetot ',
benefactress of Worksop priory, charter dated after 1218 [her husband
Gerard de Furnival was deceased; Mon. Angl. VI/1:119, Num. V[14]]

had livery of her father's lands, 20 May 1203[1]

she m. 1stly Ernulf de Magneville[15],
2ndly Gerard de Furnival

cf. CP V:580 note (g)[1]

Spouse: Gerard de Furnival, of Munden Furnivall, Essex
Birth: aft 12 Mar 1179[1]
Death: 1218[13]
Father: Gerard de Furnival
Marr: ca 1198[15]

Children: Thomas (->1238)
Gerard de Furnival, of Munden Furnivall, Essex(-ca1241)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Thomas de Furnival
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 13 Apr 1238[1]

knight, of Sheffield, co. York

cf. CP V:580 note (g)[1]

Spouse: Bertha de Ferrers
Death: aft 10 Feb 1266[1],[16]
Father: William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby (-1247)
Mother: Agnes of Chester (-1247)

Children: Sir Gerard de Furnival (- d.s.p. <1261)
Thomas (-1291)
NN, m. [evidently] Roger de Mowbray
William (-1264)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Thomas de Furnival
----------------------------------------
Death: 12 May 1291[1]
Burial: Church of the Friars Minors, Doncaster[1]

knight, of Sheffield, co. York, Worksop and Grassthorpe, Notts., Eyam,
Stoney Middleton and Brassington, co. Derby
2nd son (heir to brother Sir Gerard, d.s.p. before 18 Oct 1261[1])

of Sheffield, co. York and Worksop, co .Notts (inherited from
grandmother)

supporter of King Henry III against de Montfort (Sheffield attacked by
John D'eyville and Montfort's supporters)

cf. CP V:580-1[1]

Children: Margaret, m. (1) Sir Hugh de Nevill (->1289)
Sir Thomas de Furnival(>1251-<1332)
Sarah, m. (1) John Beke, (2) Edmund Foliot
Alianore


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1a Alianore de Furnival*
----------------------------------------

' Eleanor, da. of Sir Thomas de Furnivalle, of Sheffield, Yorks.'
[CP XII/2:243[1]]

following the death of her 1st husband John de Verdon,
" Eleanor was granted dower and had lic., 17 Mar. 1295/6, to
m. Richard de Breuse. She was living as his wife (1302-03),
31 Edw. I, but the date of her death is not known. "
[CP XII/2:243[1], cites - in note (e) - " Cal. Close Rolls, 1288-96,
passim; Cal. Patent Rolls, 1292-1301, p. 185; Cal. Chancery
Warrants, vol. i, p. 58; Rye, Cal. Feet of Fines for Suffolk
(Suffok Inst. of Arch.), pp. 101, 106; ante, vol. ii, p. 304, note
"i", sub BREWES. "]

'On the morrow of St. John the Baptist 25 Edw. I, Richard de Brewose
obtained from [his mother] Alice, que fuit uxor Richardi de Brewosa,
the manor of Stradbroke, Suffolk. The younger Richard m. Alianore
(Feet of Fines, case 216, file 43, no. 42; file 45, no. 30). He was
sum. cum equis et armis 12 Mar 1300/01.' [CP II:304, note
(i)[1],[17]]

a fine recorded in the Feet of Fines (Suffolk):
' 31 Edward I, no 30 [c.1303]
Richard de Brewosa and Alionora his wife v William Roscelyn in
Wyngefeld, Stradebrok, Fresingfeld, Esham and Sutton. '[18]

she m. 1stly John de Verdon,
2ndly Richard de Breuse

cf. CP II:305, note (d)[1]
CP XII/2:243, note (e)[1]

cf. Todd Farmerie[19]

Spouse: John de Verdon [1st husband]
Birth: 11 Jun 1256[1]

Children: Sir Thomas de Verdon(-<1315)


1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1b Alianore de Furnival* (See above)
----------------------------------------

Spouse: Richard de Braose[19] [2nd husband]
Death: aft 25 Jul 1318[20],[21],[22]
Father: Sir Richard de Braose (-<1292)
Mother: Alice le Rus (ca1245-<1300)
Marr: aft 17 Mar 1295[1],[18]

Children: Sir Richard de Breuse, of Stradbroke (1301->1357)



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of Merton of a charter of bishop Godfrey of Winchester, dated Feb.
1198 X Dec. 1204, text from C.R.Cheney and Eric John, English
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Cristopher Nash & Rosie Bevan," Nov 3, 2001,
information re: Inq.p.m., William
le Rus, from Rosie Bevan; citation re: Stradbroke, & younger
Richard de Braose, Todd Farmerie.
18. Chris Phillips, "Braose-Wingfield Connection Redux," Jan 15,
2002, , includes cites from Walter
Rye, A Calendar of the Feet of Fines for Suffolk (1900).
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.
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22. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/


* John P. Ravilious


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