GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives
Archiver > GEN-MEDIEVAL > 1996-07 > 0838401422
From: < >
Subject: Re: St. Arnoul
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:17:02 GMT
(Rob Halvorson) wrote:
>I have a question on the parentage of St. Arnoul. I have one source that
>shows his father as Ausbert of Mosell and another which shows Bodogisel. Are
>these the same people or which is correct? Rob Halvorson
>
>Del Rio, TX
The confusion is because various later medieval genealogies, and other
sources give different accounts of his parentage. However 'Ausbert of
Mosell' is an error even in these sources. One mid-9th century
Carolingian genealogy (_Domus Carolingiae genealogia_ I think, MGH, SS
II, p309 fl?) gives St.Arnulf's father as Arnoald/Arnald (fr Arnoul). The
same source says Arnoald's father was Ansbert _ex genere senatorum_. So
*Ansbert* was grandfather of St.Arnulf, not his father.
Another genealogy, this time of the 12th century (Genealogy of 1164,
MGH, SS I5, p381-4), also has Arnoald as father of St.Arnulf, but
furnishes more (unlikely) details. In this Arnulf's wife is named as Doda
daughter of Vibecis Count of Boulogne, and his mother is called Oda,
daughter of Gunzo duke of Suabia (this was followed by Meurisse in his
Histoire des eveques de Metz, I, 85, and so has passed into some older
secondary works).
Finally a third source of the 17th century (Dominicy 1648, SS 13, 248),
gives the father of St.Arnulf as Buotgisus.
I think most reputable scholars have chosen to believe that Arnoald was
the father of St.Arnulf (eg the article on the saint in the Dictionnaire
de le geographie et l'histoire de l'eglise, vol III), but I think the
earliest biography of him (_Vita_), which written in either the late 7th
or early eighth, does not give his parents, but only says he came from a
noble family. Hence the need to find him suitable ancestors. However
there was a historical Arnoald who was Bishop of Metz a decade before
Arnulf (612/3-27/9) was bishop, and it seems that this is currently
the accepted version.
hope this helps
This thread:
| Re: St. Arnoul by < > |