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Subject: Identification of Margery [Margaret], Wife of Sir Michael de Poynings (d. 1314)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 01:31:25 EST
Thursday, 31 January, 2002
Hello All,
As in many instances, The Complete Peerage provides only fragmentary
notice as to the wife of Sir Michael de Poynings (said to have been k. at
Bannockburn, 24 June 1314 - CP X:659 ), stating simply
_He m., sometime before 8 June 1298, Margery ( - ). _
In his work _The Manors of Suffolk_, W. A. Copinger provides the
information necessary to make the identification. In Vol. I, with regard to
the manor of Bures, Suffolk, Copinger states as follows:
In 1312 Isabella Lady Bardolf released to Sir
Michael de Poynings knight and Margaret his wife all
her right in the Manor of Bures by deed dated at
Barcomb in Sussex on the feast of the Annunciation
of the Virgin Mary 25 March 1312. The seal attached
to it was of red wax, the impress a cinquefoil, each
leaf of it charged with a fleur-de-lis, the
cinquefoils being her husband's arms, and gules, a
fleur-de-lis argent, her paternal arms. [1]
The release referred to probably represented either (A) the finalization
of a transfer of property representing Margaret's [aka Margery's] maritagium,
or (B) part of Isabel, Lady Bardolf's dispersal of her landed estate during
her lifetime. Certainly as she was of the (then) advanced age of 54, and
Sir Michael and his wife Margaret were possessed of a growing family (their
son Thomas was already a young man, to be knighted in 1315), such a transfer
prior to her passing would have been a rational step. Given that the
marriage in question is stated to have occurred before 8 June 1298, if a
requirement related to transferring marital property was being met, the gap
in time prior to the release certainly merits an explanation [forthcoming or
not].
There is no reference in CP (under Bardolf) to a dispensation being
obtained in connection with the marriage of William, 4th Lord Bardolf, to
Agnes de Poynings on 10 Feb 1365/6. There are a number of reasons why there
would be no mention in CP (including the frequent gaps in this regard in CP
noted in previous SGM posts). It is reasonable to assume that such a
dispensation was sought, either before or after the marriage, as (based on
the relationship identified above) the parties were related in the 3rd-4th
degrees as shown below:
Hugh Bardolf = Isabel Aguillon
Lord Bardolf I
d. 1304 I
______________________I__________
I I
Sir Thomas = Agnes Margery = Sir Michael
Bardolf I [Margaret] I de Poynings
2nd Lord Bardolf I I k. 1314
d. 1328 I I
____________I I
I I
John Bardolf = Elizabeth Sir Thomas = Agnes
3rd Lord Bardolf I Damory Poynings I
d. 1363 I I
I ______________I
I I
I Sir Michael = Joan
I lst Lord Poynings I [widow of
I d. 7 Mar 1368/9 I John de
I I Moleyns]
I ______________I
I I
William Bardolf = Agnes de Poynings
4th Lord Bardolf I d. 12 June 1403
d. 29 Jan 1385/6 I
I
V
There are many individuals whose ancestries are modified by the above
identification. Amongst those who can be readily identified are the
emigrants to North America listed below (as documented in PA, 2nd edition).
Any and all comment, criticism or confirmatory documentation welcome.
* John
.1. George Brent
.2. Robert Brent
.3. Nathaniel Burrough
.4. Christopher Calthorpe
.5. William Clopton
.6. St. Leger Codd
.7. Edward Digges
.8. Muriel Gurdon
.9. Elizabeth Harleston
10. John Harleston
11. Elizabeth Haynes
12. Edmund Kempe
13. Robert Peyton
14. George Reade
15. Katherine St. Leger
16. Richard Saltonstall
17. Maria Johanna Somerset
NOTES
[1] W. A. Copinger, The Manors of Suffolk, I:49.
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* John P. Ravilious
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