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From: (Hans Vogels)
Subject: Re: Louvain- Ponthieu link ?
Date: 4 Apr 2005 23:38:00 -0700
References: <6d.428930a8.2f832a7d@aol.com>
James,
Alan V. Murray in his "The Crusader Kindom of Jerusalem. A Dynastic
History 1099-1125" (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Oxford 2000),
189-190, states clearly that Cono of Montaigu has mistakenly been
referred to as a brother in law to duke Godfrey of Bouillon.
"This information derives from Orderic Vitalis, who states that Cono
was married to a sister of Godfrey of Bouillon, but this claim is not
confirmed by any other sources with knowledge local to Lotharingia or
Boulogne, and Orderic's information may simply be a result of
confusion over the name Ida. Eustace II of Boulogne and Ida of
Bouillon are not known to have any daughters, while the chronicle of
the abbey of Saint Hubert states that Cono's only known wife, also
called Ida, was a daughter of Lambert 'the Old', a nobleman of the
territory of Liege, who was burried at the abbey of Saint Hubert".
Elsewere I found this Ida named as Ida of Fouron (Voeren).
With regards,
Hans Vogels
wrote in message news:< >...
> Dear Newsgroup,
> I have discovered a reference on Stirnet`s Brabant
> 02 database to the marriage of Gertrud, daughter of Henry III, Count of
> Louvain and Gertrud of Flanders to Lambert, whom it calls Count of Montaigu and
> Clermont; whom elsewhere in certain on-line pedigrees in given as Sire of
> Clermont -Ailley and son of Kuno, Sire de Montaigu by Ida, daughter of Eustace II,
> Count of Bologne by Ida of Lorraine. This same series of pedigree charts gives
> Lambert`s wife as Petronille, a daughter of Thierry II, Duke of Lorraine by
> Gertrude of Flanders. There was a daughter Gertrud of Montaigu who is said to
> have married Raoul II de Nesle and Everhard III de Mortaigne.
> Sincerely,
> James W Cummings
> Dixmont, Maine USA
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