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From: ED MANN< >
Subject: Re: Stonors/de la Poles/Forsters
Date: 13 Nov 1998 14:52:21 -0800


wrote:
>
> I'm trying to sort out this genealogy. I guess I'll start from the top.
> One Joan de la Pole I found listed (with reference to Faris' Plantagenet
> Ancestry, which I don't have access to, unfortunately) on the Internet as a
> daughter of William Duke of Suffolk (c.1395-1450) and wife of Thomas Stonor. I
> have a note on a Thomas Stonor, d. 3 May 1440, an MP. Faris seems to give one
> Sir William Stonor d.21 May 1484 as Thomas and Joan's son.
> Some uncited internet sites give Sir William a sister, Alice, who married
> Humphrey Forster (1458-1500). But one reference makes Alice the daughter of
> Thomas Stonor and Alice Kirby.
> Question 1) Is Joan the daughter of Alice Chaucer? She could be, judging by
> the dates, assuming that Sir William and Alice were born in the 1460s. If not,
> who was her mother?

Joan was ilegitimate, mother unidentified.

> Question 2) Are there 2 Thomas Stonors? The MP seems to be the wrong
> generation.

Direct Descendants of Richard de Stonore

1 Sir Richard de Stonoreaka: Knt.b: 1250d: 1315ref #: BPci:364
+Margaret Harnhullref #: (BPci:364)
2 Sir John de Stonoreaka: Chief Justice of Common Pleasb: 1280d:
1354ref #: BPci:364
+Maudref #: (BPci:364)
3 Sir John de Stonoreb: 1310d: 1361ref #: BPci:364
+Margery Winardref #: (BPci:364)
4 Sir Edmund de Stonoreb: 1344d: 1382ref #: BPci:364
+Elizabeth de L'Isleref #: (BPci:364)
5 Sir Ralph de Stonoreaka: Knt.b: 1370d: 1394ref #: BPci:364
+Joan Belknapref #: (BPci:364)
6 Thomas Stonorb: 1394d: 3 May 1440ref #: BPci:364
+Alice Kirkbyref #: (BPci:364)
7 Thomas Stonorb: 1424d: 23 Apr 1474ref #: BPci:364
+Joanaka: Joan de la Poleref #: (BPci:364)

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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:

References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]

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