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From: UTZ < >
Subject: Re: Throckmorton Family
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 13:22:41 EST


In a message dated 97-12-28 16:27:46 EST, you write:

<< I found your address on the rootsweb.com web site as having information on
the family of Throckmorton in the 1400's. I have researched my wife's line
back to royalty with an Agnes Throckmorton born ca 1358 of Heron, England who
married Sir John Marney, Knight born ca 1384. They had a daughter, Anna
Marney born 1414 also of Heron, England. This is all the information that I
have. I was wondering if you have additional info on this family and are able
to trace back the Throckmorton line to it's beginnings I would love to see
what it is. I thought this line was an ancient one. However, I am not able
to find anything on Agnes or her parents, brothers and sisters, etc.

The Sir John Marney line continues through his mother, Elizabeth Sergeaux and
to her mother, Phillipia Fitzalan. From there is the Kings of England.

I would greatly appreciate any info you are willing to provide.
>>
Hi Eric: I do not have your Agnes, but I do have early Throckmortons, but in
some cases with only one child which was unheard of back then, so maybe my
10th generation is where Agnes belongs. Also, just a comment--looking at your
dates above, it would have been unusual for a man to marry someone 26 years
older than he-- also, if they m. abt 1405 [when he was 21] she would have been
47, relatively old to be having babies!! Here's what I have for early Throcks

Generation No. 1

1. GERVASE DE THROCKMORTON1 was born Abt. 1080.

Child of GERVASE DE THROCKMORTON is:
2.i.OSMONDE DE THROCKMORTON2, b. Abt. 1110.

Generation No. 2

2. OSMONDE DE THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1110.

Children of OSMONDE DE THROCKMORTON are:
3.i.JOHN DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1135.
4.ii.JOSCELIN DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1135.

Generation No. 3

3. JOHN DE THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1135.

Notes for JOHN DE THROCKMORTON:
John and Joscelin were taxed 40 shillings & 2 marks and 26 shillings 8 marks
respectively in 1175.

Child of JOHN DE THROCKMORTON is:
5.i.HENRY DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1165.

4. JOSCELIN DE THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1135.

Child of JOSCELIN DE THROCKMORTON is:
i.WILLIAM DE THROCKMORTON4.

Generation No. 4

5. HENRY DE THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1165.

Notes for HENRY DE THROCKMORTON:
About 1205, Mauger, Bishop of Worcester, confirmrd to Henry, son of John de
Throkmorton, half a hide of land in the parish of Fladbury. Robert de
Throckmorton [perhaps a brother of Henry] was one of the witnesses.

Child of HENRY DE THROCKMORTON is:
6.i.ADAM DE THROCKMORTON

Generation No. 5

6. ADAM DE THROCKMORTON

Notes for ADAM DE THROCKMORTON:
Was a surety for Osbert Marmion et als. in a case against the prior of St.
Peters, Worcester, in 5 Henry 3 [1221].

Child of ADAM DE THROCKMORTON is:
7.i.ROBERT OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1231, Throckmorton, WOR, ENG; d. 1306,
Throckmorton, WOR, ENG.

Generation No. 6

7. ROBERT OF THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1231 in Throckmorton, WOR, ENG, and
died 1306 in Throckmorton, WOR, ENG. He married PRUDENCE OF COMPTON.

Notes for ROBERT OF THROCKMORTON:
Paid a fine for a license in 1252.

Children of ROBERT and PRUDENCE are:
8.i.SIMON OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1251, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG; d. 1315,
Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.
ii.ROBERT OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1253, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.
iii.ADAM OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1255, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.
iv.NICHOLAS OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1257, Throckmorton, WOR, ENG.
v.ALEXANDER OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1259, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.
vi.JOAN OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1260, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.
vii.WILLIAM OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1261, Throckmorton, WOR, ENG.
viii.JOHN OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1263, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.

Generation No. 7

8. SIMON OF THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1251 in Throckmorton, WAR, ENG, and
died 1315 in Throckmorton, WAR, ENG. He married ISABEL OF DONNISLEY Abt. 1270
in Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.

Children of SIMON and ISABEL are:
9.i.ROBERT OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1271, Throckmorton, WAR, ENG; d. 1335,
Throckmorton, WAR, ENG.
ii.RICHARD OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1282.
iii.WILLIAN OF THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1284.

Generation No. 8

9. ROBERT OF THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1271 in Throckmorton, WAR, ENG, and
died 1335 in Throckmorton, WAR, ENG. He married JOAN DE WESTON, daughter of
RICHARD DE WESTON.

Child of ROBERT and JOAN is:
10.i.GILES DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1309, Coughton Court, GLS, ENG; d. Aft.
1348.

Generation No. 9

10. GILES DE THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1309 in Coughton Court, GLS, ENG, and
died Aft. 1348. He married AGNES FRAUNCEYS.

Notes for GILES DE THROCKMORTON:
The date, c1332, came from C W Throckmorton's book, page 29:
"Giles de Throkemerton . . . married about 5 Edward III, Agnes,
daughter of John Fraunceys of Throkemerton. Giles was living as
late as 1348."

Children of GILES and AGNES FRAUNCEYS are:
11.i.ROBERT DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1335, Coughton Court, GLS, ENG.
ii.JOHN DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1337, Coughton Court, GLS, ENG.
iii.THOMAS DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1339, Coughton Court, GLS, ENG.
iv.RICHARD DE THROCKMORTON, b. Abt. 1341, Coughton Court, GLS, ENG.

Generation No. 10

11. ROBERT DE THROCKMORTON was born Abt. 1335 in Coughton Court, GLS, ENG.
He married LUCY COLEMAN.

Child of ROBERT and LUCY COLEMAN is:
i.THOMAS DE THROCKMORTON11, b. Abt. 1355, Fladbury, Warwick, ENG; d. Abt.
1412, Fladbury, Warwick, ENG; m. AGNES BESFORD, Abt. 1381.

Addition, corrections welcome.

Always optimistic--Dave

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