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From: Don Stone < >
Subject: Isolt de Mortimer (was Re: Help on Beauchamp line)
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 02:24:18 -0400


Cristopher Nash wrote:
>
> "H. L. Marvin" < > wrote --
> >I have her as wife of "Edmund de-Mortimer, VII Lord Mortimer of Wigmore"
> >who is in
> >generation 4 of this chart and mother of Isolde and Sir Roger.
> >John de-Neville b. 1331
> >Margaret de-Fiennes b. 1262
>
> As you may have guessed, there are a number of individuals named Margaret
> de Fiennes, but I think it would be best to note in any case that Margaret
> de Fiennes da. of Sir William de Fiennes and wife of Edmund de Mortimer of
> Wigmore was not the mother of Isolde/Isolt, whose mother remains unknown.

An article in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register (the
famous author's name escapes me at the moment), vol. 116: 16-7, gives
Isolt as the daughter of Edmund de Mortimer, and this opinion has been
followed by Weis/Sheppard/Faris in Ancestral Roots (9-30, 207-30) and by
Faris in Plantagenet Ancestry (Audley 13). But as I recall, the editor
of the Register, in an introduction to the article, seemed to be happier
with the hypothesis that Isolt was the sister of Edmund de Mortimer,
referring to an article by Josiah Wedgewood entitled "The Parentage of
James de Audley, K.G.". This article appeared in Collections for a
History of Staffordshire, ed. by the William Salt Soc., NS vol. 9, 1906;
on p. 262 Wedgewood says "Hugh d'Audelee, the elder, Baron Audley of
Stratton, b. c. 1260, m. Isolda, probably sister of Edmund Mortimer of
Wigmore and had with her Arley (staffs.) for life." This works well
chronologically (Edmund Mortimer was b. 1261, according to
Weis/Sheppard/Faris), and an otherwise unknown first wife of Edmund is
no longer required. The source which Wedgewood footnotes for Isolda is
"Extracts from the Plea Rolls", by Maj.-Gen. G. Wrottesley, Collections
for a History of Staffordshire, ed. by the William Salt Soc., part 1,
vol. 6, 1885. On p. 250, from the Stafford Assize Roll, 21 Edward I
[1292/3], we read "Hugh de Audelegh and Isolda his wife were summoned to
show their title to hold pleas of the Crown, and to have free warren,
fair, market, and wayf in Arlegh. Hugh and Isolda state they held the
manor for term of their lives of the inheritance of Edmund de Mortimart,
without whom they cannot answer; and Edmund being summoned stated one
John de Burgo had the manor with the said liberties and John had given
the manor to Robert Burnel, who conveyed it to the present King, who had
given it to Latard de Heny; and Letard [sic] with the King's license had
given the manor to Roger de Mortimer the father of Edmund, and that from
time out of memory all the said franchises had been annexed to the
manor. The King's attorney disputed the claim, and it was adjourned to
be heard _coram Rege_. m.36 [membrane 36, I suppose]." Note that the
precise relationship between Edmund and Isolda is not specified.

-- Don Stone

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