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From: "Ginny Wagner" < >
Subject: RE: Rohese, wife of Sir Richard de Lucy, Chief Justiciar of England
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:23:29 -0500
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Doug,

Thank you for the link to Rose de Dover. Isn't it great when the title line
gives so much information? I know you are very busy right now but, can you
easily verify that Walter Lucy, abbot of Battle Abbey was a brother of
Richard and of Robert -- or maybe Robert was their father?

A Robert Lucy is mentioned in Dom David Knowles' The Monastic Order in
England, page 187 footnoted as from Chron. Bell. 65 as being introduced to
the royal circle in Henry I time by his kinsman, Abbot Geoffrey de Gorham of
St. Albans Abbey.

He also mentions on page 277-9 that Walter de Lucy, abbot of Battle from
1139 - 1171 was a brother of Richard Lucy, the celebrated justicar of Henry
II accompanied by a moving story of Walter's death and his brother Richard's
compassion.

Knowles says on page 278 that Walter was originally a monk of Lonle who "had
for some time been living with abbot Geoffrey of St. Albans, a relative, and
through him and through his brother, Richard, had become persona grata with
the king and the court circle" which is also footnoted Chron. Bell. 65.

It would be great to know just what they meant by "kin" back in the twelfth
century! Thanks for any help you can give. Much appreciated. ;-) Ginny




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