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From: Alan B. Wilson< >
Subject: Re: Lanvallei + Beauchamp + Mowbray
Date: 22 Sep 1998 19:08:13 GMT


In article < >,
(Richard Borthwick) wrote:

> At 12:37 AM 22/09/98 GMT, you wrote:

[snip]

> >Fifth Generation
> >
> >
> >20 Hamo de St. Clair.[353, p. 92],[502],[506] Hamo de St. Clair was alive
> >in 1120.[353, p. 92] Baron of Walkern (Herts).[353, p. 92]
> >
> >21 Gunnora BIGOD.[82, 660:03*],[41, iv, p. 578],[502],[506].
> I have not been able to locate this marriage. 41 and 506 mention her
> marriage to Robert fitz Swein but not (as far as I can see) one to Hamo. Is
> it a sure thing? Robert died between 1132 and 1140 [Sanders, 139].
> >
K. S. B. Keats-Rohan [506] says: ". . . Roger's daughters Gunnor and
Matilda were married soon after 1107. Gunnor's marriage to Robert fitz
Swein of Essex had perhaps been arranged by her father. . . ."
"In 1129 the sole surviving issue of Robert de Tosny were his younger
daughters Adelisa Bigod and Agnes de Beaufour, who was then already
married to Hubert de Ryes. At that date his Bigod granddaughter Matilda
de Albini was probably already dead and her sister Gunnor not long removed
from her second marriage to Haimo de St Clair. . . ."
Earlier G. Herbert Fowler [502] identifies the wives of Hamo de St.
Clare as (1) Gunnora, dau. of Roger Bigod and Adeliza; wid. of Robert of
Essex; and (2) Margaret, dau. of Robert de Chesney and Avelina. His chart
showing the descent, however, leaves ambiguous which wife of Hamo was
mother of Hubert.

Gunnora Bigod = Hamo de St. Clare = Margaret de Chesney
|
Clemence = Hubert de St. Clare
|
Gunnora de St. Clare = William de Lanvelay

I fear it was I who made the inference that Gunnora de St. Clare was
named after her grandmother, Gunnora Bigod; I do not find it explicitly
stated in Fowler.

> >502. Fowler, G. Herbert, The Beauchamps, barons of Eaton, The
> >Publications of the Bedfordshire Historical Record Society, ii, 1914,
> >61-91.
> >506. Keats-Rohan, K. S. B., Belvoir: The Heirs of Robert and Berengar de
> >Tosny, Prosopon, 9, Unit for Prosopographical Research, July 1998.
> >
> >--
> >Alan B. Wilson
> >
> >
> >
> >

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