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From: Stewart Baldwin< >
Subject: Re: Llywelyn ap Iorwerth's marriages
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:57:41 GMT
On 30 Jul 1999 19:53:25 GMT, (AJones9446) wrote:
>(29) The three letters of Pope Innocent III which deal with this business will
>be found in Migne's Patrologia (series Latina, ccxiv. 791 [25th Nov. 1199];
>ccxv. 49 [20th April 1203], 534 [17th Feb 1205]. Cf. Papal Letters, i. 8, 13,
>19.
I spent a few hours yesterday in the library at the University of
Georgia, and one of the things I found was the Papal letters reference
above. The full citation is "Calendar of entries in the Papal
Registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland - Papal Letters, vol.
I, A.D. 1198-1304", edited by W. H. Bliss (Public Record Office, 1893;
Kraus reprint, 1971). The items on pages 8, 13, and 19 are brief (and
incomplete) English abstracts of the items from Migne which I have
already transcribed in full in previous postings. (I'm not positive
what the "Regesta" volumes and folio numbers are. Presumably they are
references to either the original manuscripts or another published
version of the same.) The abstracts read as follows:
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p. 8 (Regesta vol. IV)
7 Kal. Dec [1199]. Lateran. (f. 200)
Mandate to the bishop of Man, the Archdeacon of Bangor, and the prior
of the isle of Glannan, to take cognisance of and decide the case of
R. prince of Nort Wales, who wishes to marry a daughter of the prince
of the Isles previously betrothed to his incle. [Opp. ed. Migne, i.
791]
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p. 13 (Regesta vol. V)
12 Kal. May [1203]. Lateran. (f. 57d.)
Mandate to the abbot of Abenton, and prior of Henli, and Master M.
canon of Berlinton, in the diocese of Bangor, to cause to be observed
the sentence about the marriage between the daughter of the prince of
the Isles and L[ewellin], prince of Nort Wales. [Opp. ed. Migne, ii.
49.]
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p. 19 (Regesta vol. V)
13 Kal. Mar. [1205] St. Peter's. (f. 173d)
Mandate to the bishops of Ely, Norwich, and St. Asaph, to bring to an
end the cause relating to the marriage of the daughter of the prince
of the Isles with L. prince of North Wales. [Opp. ed. Migne, ii.
534.]
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These are obviously not complete abstracts. For example, the third
abstract makes no mention of the sister of the earl of Chester which
clearly appears in the Latin version from Migne already transcribed
earlier. I would appear that Lloyd, in his History of Wales, relied
mainly on the above incomplete abstracts, and did not look at the
versions in Migne very carefully. At least, that would explain why he
did not mention the Chester marriage.
Stewart Baldwin
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