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From: "G . EDWARD ALLEN" < >
Subject: Re: An 11 year old mother?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:27:30 -0700


Henry Sutliff wrote:
>
> CP IX:7-8 [Moels] show that John, Lord Moels (d.s.p.m. bef 21 Aug 1337)
> and his wife Joan, dau. of Sir Richard Lovel, left two daughters and
> heiresses at his death, Muriel and Isabel.
>
> Isabel is shown to have been born at Marnhull, Dorset on 31 May 1326.
> (with caveat other than CIPM of father that she may have been 13 or more
> in Sep. 1337) She married without license William de Botreaux of
> Boscastle, Cornwall bef. 30 Aug. 1337.
>
> CPII: 241 [Botreaux] shows son and heir William de Botreaux b. 1 Sep
> 1337 in Lanreath, Cornwall. This date if the CIPM of Isabel's father is
> accepted, would make Isabel 11 years old at birth of her son.
>
> Should not the year of Isabel's birth in 1326 be discounted from the
> CIPM in favor of an earlier date (1324) as suggested in the CFR in
> footnote?
>
> Henry Sutliff

Sorry, I hit the wrong key and it took off before I had written anything
:-(

Heiresses, if they were married at their father's death to someone who
was of age, were considered of age and their proofs of age in an IPM are
not as exact as if they were unmarried and underage, as the king had
notheing to gain and the family had nothing to loose by an inexactitude
of age.

Kay Allen AG

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