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From: Don Stone < >
Subject: Re: Toumanoff request
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:22:31 -0500


Rafal Prinke wrote:
>
> I have no access to Toumanoff's works - so could I ask you to check
> the following (if you have it at hand, of course)?
>
> There is the earlier Demetrius - the anti-king of Georgia, son of
> George I (d. 1027). In Justi's pedigrees he is the father of
> Irene, wife of Isaak Komnenos, and of David, whose line became
> rulers of Ossetia and produced David Soslan, husband of queen Tamar
> of Georgia.
>
> Does Toumanoff say anything about that line or other rulers of Ossetia
> at that time?

Here is the information Toumanoff gives on pp. 134-6 of *Les Dynasties
de la Caucasie Chretienne de l'Antiquite jusqu'au XIXe Siecle* about the
line you mention:
Demetrius, died c. 1053, anti-king, had two children, David (who
married a dau. of the king of Alania [Ossetia]) and Irene Augusta.
David was the father of Aton, who was the father of Djadaros, who m. (1)
Rousoudan, dau. of David II, King of Georgia, and m. (2) N.N.
Djadaros was the father (by which wife is not specified) of
David-Soslan, d. 1207, co-king of Georgia, who married in 1189 Thamar I,
Queen of Georgia.

I can find no other relevant mention of Ossetia or Alania in Toumanoff.

Stewart Baldwin wrote:
>
> And, just as important, does Toumanoff cite any checkable sources for
> his information, which could then be followed up to see if they offer
> any clues to the parentage of Maria of Ossetia?

Toumanoff presents a large number of genealogical charts and
chronological tables, followed by an extensive bibliography.
Unfortunately, there are just a few notes associated with the charts.
Most of the information in the charts and tables is not commented on
or keyed to the references in the bibliography. I scanned through the
bibliography looking for books or articles with Ossetia or Alania in
their title and didn't find any. There were many references relating to
Georgia, some in Russian and some in Georgian.

-- Don Stone

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