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From: "Todd A. Farmerie" < >
Subject: Re: Mosul and Skleros
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:08:56 -0400
S.F. Rootenberg wrote:
>
> In "Royal Highness", Sir Iain Moncreiffe mentions a descent of the Great
> Princes of Kiev from the Emirs of Mosul through the Skleroi dynasty of
> Byzantium. How certain is this descent? Jean-Claude Cheynet makes no
> mention thereof in the genealogical tables of his book "Pouvoirs et
> contestations Byzance 963-1210" (Paris, 1990).
>
> If Moncreiffe is correct then the descent of Mary Monomacha, princess of
> Byzantium, is as follows (based on Cheynet and ES neue Folge):
>
> 1. Mary of Byzantium, +1067; marries 1046: Vsevolod, Great-Prince of Kiev.
> 2. Constantine IX Monomachus, Emperor of Byzantium 1042-54; married:
[break] Even IF the Monomacha (whatever her name was) was daughter of
Constantine, and not just a kinswoman, we certainly cannot say who her
mother was.
> 3. N.N. Skleraina
> 6. Basilos Skleros, married:
> 7. Pulcheria Argyropoulina.
> 12. Romanos Skleros, married (according to Moncreiffe):
> 13. N.N., Princess of Mosul, sister of Uddat ud Dawlah Abu Taglib, Emir of
> Mosul (according to Moncreiffe he may also have been her father).
[break] See below.
> 24. Bardas Skleros, Anti-Emperor (three times between 976-989).
> 26. Nasr ed Dawlah Hasan, Emir of Mosul 929-68.
> 48. Panthetios Skleros, married:
> 49. Gregoria, descended from a brother of Emperor Basil the Macedonian.
> 52. Abu'l Haija Abdullah, Emir of Mosul 905-29.
> 104. Hamdan, Emir of Mosul 892-905, founder of the Hamdanid dynasty.
The only near-contemporary source says, basically, "Emperor Bardas and
Emir Nasr agreed to a marriage between their kin". Out of all of the
possible reconstructions of that statement, that the one selected just
happens to be the only one which would produce large numbers of European
descendants of muslim descent tells you something about how genealogists
tend to throw all the tools of the trade out the window when the
possibility of a really juicy line pops up. I usually apply what I call
the Religious Conversion Test (tm). If the Emir of Mosul was simply a
local christian lord, would this solution still seem the most likely?
ta
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